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Old 11-15-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabberwock
France loves Richard Anderson:Pour financer la moitié de notre vaste organisme expansion et le transfert des milliers de bons emplois payants pilote à la France, nous sommes reconnaissants.

Non merde!
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
D H (real initials) told me my ASA interview would get me hired at Delta back in 99. He said it again in 2001 and added that was getting 737's. For the most part, they are full of happy horsemanure like any airline management. Pilots are suckers for hope.

What a flow through does not fix is the loss of longevity and lack of job protection that losy scope guarantees. With our scope Delta is a flow through to no where. We are not hiring.

I remember meeting several ASA pilots who were going thru 737NG initial training. No BS.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

If I wasn't so close to retirement, I'd apply at SWA or any other carrier that actually wants to run an airline, then I'd quit Delta as soon as I got the offer. IMO, you shouldn't necessarily always look for the highest pay and QOL, you should look for a company that actually wants to fly aircraft and for you to fly them.

You opened this door... Since you are one of a handful of guys that actually HAS a retirement here at DAL.. what on this earth is keeping you here? Why don't you go over there and throw gear for a lot more money? Hmmmmmmmm? Feel the LUV Carl.. go on over there...
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Guessing the ER guy on reserve can afford the tent, while the Maddog FO just has a blanket.
All any of 'em get now is a blanket since da judge says yes to freedom of speech, but no to campin' out in public parks...
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:13 PM
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T, you trying to push Carl down the stairs for seniority improvement?
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
T, you trying to push Carl down the stairs for seniority improvement?
Nope.. just callin him out on his BS.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Nope.. just callin him out on his BS.
I thought y'all were BFF? Do I need to get luvjockey?

A lot of guys on this thread are saying something similar, at least from his advice I agree it is wiser to go to an airline that wants to be an airline. That is a worthwhile shot at Delta ticket brokerage Inc we are developing.

Fwiw I did the "I quit" gig and look where am I now. Said that, been there, done that, got the hell out of that. Concessionary Delta is still a multitude times better than my Coex job and thousands of times safer than my corporate cp job.

I wouldn't leave again. I'll "occupy" Delta. But i couldnt blame anyone for bailing. If it was me id go right to FedEx. If i really wanted passengers I think ACL was right Hawaiian would be a good gig. I think Virgin won't fail due to the ego involved. I think Alaska would be good. Probably none is good long term. I don't know what is good long term but im still under the belief this current Delta paint scheme will be our last before we adopt an all gray scheme.

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Old 11-15-2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I remember meeting several ASA pilots who were going thru 737NG initial training. No BS.
There were a few LCA's a few years back doing that. They also send the WIA and OBAP scholarship winners though that course as a proving run. We have successfully hired some awesome pilots that way.
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:23 PM
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You opened this door... Since you are one of a handful of guys that actually HAS a retirement here at DAL.. what on this earth is keeping you here?
Because my "retirement" is not in my name. It is nothing more than a promise that can be broken in a future bankruptcy. What you guys got with your claim sale and DC plan is money that is actually in your name. And since some of us have this promise, we've not had anything put in our DC accounts so we could raise the DC accounts of our junior guys. So ALL I have for retirement is this "promise" and my own personal savings.

If I left now for SWA, I would never be a captain. Thus I would be making about 35,000 a year less as a SWA copilot than I make now. That wouldn't make sense financially for me.

Originally Posted by tsquare
Why don't you go over there and throw gear for a lot more money? Hmmmmmmmm? Feel the LUV Carl.. go on over there...
For all the reasons above. But again, even at this late stage in my career, it is very tempting to be with an airline that actually would want ME as their first choice to care for the brand. But if I ultimately lose my fNWA pension, that extra 35,000 per year at Delta might come in handy. If I was young enough to be a captain at SWA someday, I'd be gone.

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