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Old 11-15-2011, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Just so FTB doesn't have to do all the work around here.






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You da man Carl! But just as I was reading this my 9 year old son eating breakfast peaked over my shoulder and wanted to know what that monkey was doing with the football, I have a few minutes before the wife gets up to put this fire out!
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:07 AM
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Worked great. Thanks for the quick reply Leine
Glad to help out. I wasted a lot of time once retyping my prefs before someone pointed that one out to me.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Bar,

Sadly, the company will not approve a leave of absence if it is for the purpose of another flying job. So Emirates or another carrier would not be an option.

If I wasn't so close to retirement, I'd apply at SWA or any other carrier that actually wants to run an airline, then I'd quit Delta as soon as I got the offer. IMO, you shouldn't necessarily always look for the highest pay and QOL, you should look for a company that actually wants to fly aircraft and for you to fly them. For those of us who work for the Delta Ticket Brokerage company, you're better off working at Priceline.com. It's a ticket brokerage outfit too, but at least you understand that's what you're working for, and the stock plan is incredible.

Plus you might get to meet DennyCrane!

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Personally, I have often thought of another company, ( I may just be bouncing along the bottom for an entire career here at DAL) I am just not sold on any airline being able to offer a prosperous career for pilots for the longterm. The goofs in guberment and funded by wall street (getting my sign ready for the local "occupy wall street") are in an outsource, share holder first mantra that is key to killing our careers. SWA is not as shinny as it once was, ALK looks good for the moment and have a good product but in time will show wear of serving too many masters (and I am curious if AMR saber rattling about further increases in Code Share may push DAL to make a move??) so is it really any better anywhere else for the long term? Never sure I guess!
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Personally, I have often thought of another company, ( I may just be bouncing along the bottom for an entire career here at DAL) I am just not sold on any airline being able to offer a prosperous career for pilots for the longterm. The goofs in guberment and funded by wall street (getting my sign ready for the local "occupy wall street") are in an outsource, share holder first mantra that is key to killing our careers. SWA is not as shinny as it once was, ALK looks good for the moment and have a good product but in time will show wear of serving too many masters (and I am curious if AMR saber rattling about further increases in Code Share may push DAL to make a move??) so is it really any better anywhere else for the long term? Never sure I guess!
Look beyond the airlines. I continually do. I am looking at corporate gigs too. Heck I am looking beyond aviation, which of course is difficult right now, but that will change. It is always wise to keep your options open.

If AMR sells scope, this group better get it together quick. If not, we too will see it for some bs pay raise, and off we go. It would make anyone in the bottom 1/2 of this list think twice about the next 15-20 years here.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:45 AM
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From someone who recently left a Fortune 500 corporate gig to come back to Delta, I can tell you the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by launchpad475
from someone who recently left a fortune 500 corporate gig to come back to delta, i can tell you the grass is not always greener on the other side.
welcome back!
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Launchpad475
From someone who recently left a Fortune 500 corporate gig to come back to Delta, I can tell you the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
Very true, some stink. I can think of a few in ATL.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
...Today, Alaska puts more passengers onto our network than we put onto theirs...An expansion of the Alaska Codeshare Agreement would allow us to maintain a significant network presence in the northwest and along the West Coast...
Does that sound familiar?
It shouldn't, because Delta gets fewer passengers from Alaska than Alaska gets from Delta (straight from the MEC Update 7-11).

winning!

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Old 11-15-2011, 09:28 AM
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[QUOTE=Carl Spackler;1085397]Bar,

Sadly, the company will not approve a leave of absence if it is for the purpose of another flying job. So Emirates or another carrier would not be an option.

If I wasn't so close to retirement, I'd apply at SWA or any other carrier that actually wants to run an airline, then I'd quit Delta as soon as I got the offer. IMO, you shouldn't necessarily always look for the highest pay and QOL, you should look for a company that actually wants to fly aircraft and for you to fly them. For those of us who work for the Delta Ticket Brokerage company, you're better off working at Priceline.com. It's a ticket brokerage outfit too, but at least you understand that's what you're working for, and the stock plan is incredible.



Carl,

The problem with this strategy is that every airline is potentially only 1 CEO change away from total disaster. DAL used to be the type of airline that people would leave other airlines to come to ..... and then we got Ron Allen and Leadership 7.5. Southwest now has a Herb trained and picked front office but who will they have next?


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Old 11-15-2011, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Launchpad475
From someone who recently left a Fortune 500 corporate gig to come back to Delta, I can tell you the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
good point....
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