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Old 11-11-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
12 month equipment freeze for new hire pilots
Heard that too. Man that is going to irk them. Not that they have a say, but if you are stuck on a jet, lets say the 88 and you want to get to DTW, for now you are SOL.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Man this AE sucks.
What do you are, you will still be able to bid 88 RSV?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:13 AM
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
What do you are, you will still be able to bid 88 RSV?
What do you are??

Did Yoda get hold of your APC account?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
12 month equipment freeze for new hire pilots
If that's true, that's horrible. We are going to hire hundreds per year in a few years. There's no reason these pilots should be seat locked as new hires. I was placed in ANC as a new hire. To this day, I've never been to Alaska. I was able to bid out of there immediately. I strongly disagree with throwing new hires under the bus for our own gain just because they don't work here yet.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
What do you are??

Did Yoda get hold of your APC account?
Darn "C" key.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Heard that too. Man that is going to irk them. Not that they have a say, but if you are stuck on a jet, lets say the 88 and you want to get to DTW, for now you are SOL.
acl65, Sorry to sound cold, but Boo Hoo for them. We had to sit sideways for several years (four in my case) in a base of the company's choosing, and be on the "B" scale for five years. These guys have lots of choices so to be irked about a 12 month freeze seems pretty trivial. I would hardly call it throwing them under the bus as Hockey said.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
If that's true, that's horrible. We are going to hire hundreds per year in a few years. There's no reason these pilots should be seat locked as new hires. I was placed in ANC as a new hire. To this day, I've never been to Alaska. I was able to bid out of there immediately. I strongly disagree with throwing new hires under the bus for our own gain just because they don't work here yet.
I got to disagree. Do you really think it's right that Delta spends money training a new hire, just to have that pilot move to a different airplane weeks later? The only people that get a seat lock are pilots who are displaced. I don't consider a new hire to be a displaced pilot. They choose to come here, and then Delta spends good money to train them. I think it's perfectly fair to allow Delta to get some productivity out of a new hire before they spend even more money training them for another aircraft.

Also keep in mind a seat lock is not a base lock.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
LOA 31. Yesterday evening, your C44 representatives were informed that the Negotiating Committee had reached a tentative agreement with the company regarding beneficial changes to Section 23G5 and 23K of the PWA. This tentative agreement is titled LOA 31 Scheduling Modifications. We will be briefed at the upcoming MEC Meeting and will provide you with additional details as they become available.

Another major contract change without memrat?

What did we give up this time?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
I got to disagree. Do you really think it's right that Delta spends money training a new hire, just to have that pilot move to a different airplane weeks later? The only people that get a seat lock are pilots who are displaced. I don't consider a new hire to be a displaced pilot. They choose to come here, and then Delta spends good money to train them. I think it's perfectly fair to allow Delta to get some productivity out of a new hire before they spend even more money training them for another aircraft.

Also keep in mind a seat lock is not a base lock.
Before we get too wrapped around the axle on this, perhaps we should wait to see what the LOA says. However, I think it would be prudent to let your reps know that we frankly, shouldn't be in a giving mood.
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