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Old 11-10-2011, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Has anyone bothered to look at the demographics of the Mem Capts. IE: how many over 60, 55+. I'm too lazy. How about it some of you whipper snappers. ACL, FTB, 80Kts, FERD
Whipper snapper? That may be the nicest thing you've ever said to me
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Okay. Fair enough. But just so we are clear... are you saying that keeping flying at mainline "ties management's hands" and that outsourcing is required for growth? You sound like Lee Moak!

Also, I just want to reemphasize that the mass outsourcing of our jobs occurred well after deregulation took effect. I recognize your point that DAL and SWA have had different business models and somewhat different circumstances.
Don't put words in my mouth. When I talked about tying management's hands, the SWA/AT merger is proof that SWA's scope clause does just that. Why else would MANAGEMENT hand down the SLI proposal, AND put a gun to the heads of the AT pilots?

/digression

I was not talking about OUR situation. But you know that...
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Don't put words in my mouth. When I talked about tying management's hands, the SWA/AT merger is proof that SWA's scope clause does just that. Why else would MANAGEMENT hand down the SLI proposal, AND put a gun to the heads of the AT pilots?

/digression

I was not talking about OUR situation. But you know that...
No, actually I didn't. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Has anyone bothered to look at the demographics of the Mem Capts. IE: how many over 60, 55+. I'm too lazy. How about it some of you whipper snappers. ACL, FTB, 80Kts, FERD
According to the Nov seniority list Mem has:

Age 60+ 12
Age 55-60 43
Age 50-55 46
Age 44-50 15
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
I just got back from the MEM "road-show". Jim Graham, and Tim Hennie-Roed came over to brief the pilot group. Good presentation. Tim indicated that this AE is going to generate (best guess) slightly over 800 training events. Just thinking out loud, but, if the aircraft were painted Red-tail color, does anyone think this base would be closing? So, how is this not a result of the merger...OTOH, if the merger hadn't occurred, would any of us have jobs today. I dunno. But, if management would honor the entire "paid move" promises that were in the contract (the ones that expired last October), that would go a long way toward easing the pain of the base closure. Hoping that the company will do the right thing, but I'm "watching their lips"....
First off as a displaced pilot... I hope MEM guys get whatever financial assistance available. Somebody spend what I did not get please!!!> But do we not get paid moves on a displacement? Or was there a better offer before October?
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:40 PM
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First off as a displaced pilot... I hope MEM guys get whatever financial assistance available. Somebody spend what I did not get please!!!> But do we not get paid moves on a displacement? Or was there a better offer before October?
h. Real Estate Commission Upon Sale of Permanent Residence
The real estate commission incurred by him upon the sale of his permanent residence
as the result of being converted from a displacement (that occurs after October 30,
2008) from a base that is closed within 24 months after October 30, 2008, will be
reimbursed in an amount not to exceed $35,000, upon submission of reasonable
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:10 PM
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After getting the word this morning in MEM ops, the predictions I've been hearing since 1989 are finally true. It was great while it lasted, and for those that have made it so enjoyable the last 22 years, thank you. I'm not seriously considering moving, while I wouldn't move to Memphis, I don't think I want to move from here either, it is home. I love the 320 but commuting to fly it with the schedules I've seen in ATL, DTW and MSP doesn't seem worth it. So I'm considering sliding over a seat and enjoying the ride from the right side of the world in the 765 or the 330. After all the angst of anticipating this for all these years, being senior on something has great appeal.
We do have a lot of entrenched people in MEM, The top third can bid most anything, my middle third, narrow or very junior widebody, and the bottom third pretty much will be whistling Dixie again and plugging the leaks of the windows with a jumpseater's knee in his kidney.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:51 PM
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I just want to confirm

If scheduling removes you from a trip for oe, they have to notify you of a recovery trip at least 12 hrs prior to original sign in.

If they don't notify me prior to 12 hrs prior to report, am I free from recovery obligation?

Thanks
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:35 PM
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What's the difference in the 22D2 and 22D3 report. One says 9397 pilots..the other says 10596
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234
I just want to confirm

If scheduling removes you from a trip for oe, they have to notify you of a recovery trip at least 12 hrs prior to original sign in.

If they don't notify me prior to 12 hrs prior to report, am I free from recovery obligation?

Thanks
This just happened to me as well. I believe our obligation under 23.? is to be available for upto 6 hours after your original report. If scheduling has not called within 6 hours after your scheduled report you can crack a cold one.
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