Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Happy to be here
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Puhleeez. Carmen, or whatever that rotation building software is that decides what airplane/crew/whatever does what, and it doesn't care one wit about where crews layover. This crap hasn't changed in 20 years, and it isn't gonna change anytime in the next 20 either.. unless it happens to be a good deal layover for ATL crews... 
11-09-2011, 06:50 PM
Back on TDY
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Carl;
SWA touts that but talk to the pilots that work directly with their management. Times are changing. Also their contract is designed to throw money at greedy pilots. Money covers many of the holes in their deal.
There is no doubt that it is a good company, but that is because they trow money at people to work their tails off. Ask the FA's how well they are paid. I know a few that are less than joyed at the whole SWA experience.
They have matured to the point that they are going to be another airline like everyone else.
SWA touts that but talk to the pilots that work directly with their management. Times are changing. Also their contract is designed to throw money at greedy pilots. Money covers many of the holes in their deal.
There is no doubt that it is a good company, but that is because they trow money at people to work their tails off. Ask the FA's how well they are paid. I know a few that are less than joyed at the whole SWA experience.
They have matured to the point that they are going to be another airline like everyone else.
Oh man, I just realized...what if tsqure also thought I was serious? Better hire another bodyguard just in case.
Carl
11-09-2011, 06:53 PM
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11-09-2011, 06:57 PM
seeing the large hubs...
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The point I was trying to make is that not everyone commutes and it's unfair to focus solely on making it good for commuters. The way ALPA and the company seem to discuss issues is, Pilots want X, it costs the pilots X "dollars" or some sort of credits. By asking for the things like free hotels rooms and rearranging overnights so people overnight at home it will cost money - the company isn't going to do it out of the goodness of their heart. If the OP wanted things done for commuters, why can't there be things done for those who live in base? Obviously what I want asking for was TIC, but my concept is valid.
As ACL pointed out, I was lucky and don't have to commute now. I may have to commute in the future, who can predict the future. But as a commuter, I wasn't wishing for the PWA to be rearranged so my commute was easier. I recognized I was lucky that I was able to live in one city and work in another. Not many other industries allow that. I see how it sucks when your base closes and you're forced with choosing between several bad options.
The name of the game in the airline business these days is efficiency. I know it's not fun, but it's why we have 5am shows in LGA and moving airplanes around to reduce credit time.
As ACL pointed out, I was lucky and don't have to commute now. I may have to commute in the future, who can predict the future. But as a commuter, I wasn't wishing for the PWA to be rearranged so my commute was easier. I recognized I was lucky that I was able to live in one city and work in another. Not many other industries allow that. I see how it sucks when your base closes and you're forced with choosing between several bad options.
The name of the game in the airline business these days is efficiency. I know it's not fun, but it's why we have 5am shows in LGA and moving airplanes around to reduce credit time.
11-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Can't abide NAI
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... darn, they blocked the image ...
11-09-2011, 07:04 PM
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Carl, That new process was in place before our JPWA. We re wrote the scope sections of two of ALPA's largest carriers who subcontract FAR more ALPA represented flying than any other carrier. What effect did this alleged "conflict of interest" have with our negotiations then?
Carl
11-09-2011, 07:11 PM
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You can be ethical, take care of your employees, AND make money...
Costco CEO Jim Sinegal - YouTube
Unfortunately, he announced his retirement this year at 75. Hopefully, they can continue what he started.
Costco CEO Jim Sinegal - YouTube
Unfortunately, he announced his retirement this year at 75. Hopefully, they can continue what he started.
11-09-2011, 07:14 PM
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Put the 70 in the percent column and don't even both with filling out the AE portion, unless you want a seat lock in whatever you pick up. By getting MD'd you will get to go anywhere you're senior enough to get into and you'll get no seat lock in case something you really want opens up in the future.
Good Luck
Good Luck
Vol:
The way I understand it, the system assumes you want to be #1 in catagory, or a percentage FROM the top. (100 pilots in the catagory, 30 reserves and you want to be a 'Line-holder,' 70% is the bid you place.)
Check on DeltaNet; Crew Resources and there should besome bidding guidance there; center of the page, towards the bottom. The 'other' forum should have a bidding guide too.
Good Luck!
11-09-2011, 07:45 PM
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You can be ethical, take care of your employees, AND make money...
Costco CEO Jim Sinegal - YouTube
Unfortunately, he announced his retirement this year at 75. Hopefully, they can continue what he started.
Costco CEO Jim Sinegal - YouTube
Unfortunately, he announced his retirement this year at 75. Hopefully, they can continue what he started.
COSTCO= China Off Shore Trading Company!
In reality I really like the model. The checkers make 15 bucks an hr to start, and the dept managers are well in to six figures. Store managers are mid to upper six figures. Great store, but they do target the 100K plus crowd.
11-09-2011, 07:47 PM
meh
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Here's something you get already that is $$$ and I don't: free parking at your base. I'd love to have free parking at my airport, but instead of every pilot getting a parking stipend to do with as they desire, the "non commuter prejudice" kicks in and only those living in a pilot (or flt att) base get this perk. I pay about $150/mo for parking.
I think we can agree that life for the commuter is nowhere near as nice from an airline perspective as for those who are ABLE to live in base... rather than demanding that those less fortunate than you not get any improvement in their lives unless you get a commensurate good deal, can you not look upon those less fortunate and say, "Ok, THAT is a pretty crappy deal, maybe a small mitigation of pain so they only have 5 times the pain as I do would be ok..."
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