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11-08-2011, 03:41 PM

#79851

Enemyofthestate

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Originally Posted by Going2Baja

ACL - Care to comment?

Fresh out of the ER training house: AE due out soon, to include the reduction of system wide ER pilots up to 400.

You seem to know when AE's are due out...are you hearing any of this talk?

Baja.

OMG - so they are going to ignore the fences and ER pilots can bid the 747-400 ?

11-08-2011, 03:49 PM

#79852

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

From P2P.
Question: Several first officers have told me that they will sign up for DPA if they believe our contract survey to be weak or ALPA's opener with Delta to be too low. Are we going to know what we are asking for in our opening exchange with management or the results of the contract survey?

Answer: 8-1-11. The contract survey will be just that, a survey. Every pilot should complete it. We need 100% participation in order for the MEC to move forward with what the pilots want. Don't expect our contract survey or opener to be published until the opener has been exchanged. It is not good negotiating strategy to tell the other party what you intend to open with.

From the Council 20 Chairman's update:...and of course the opener will not be released. That would be like showing your hand in poker.

There was no such caveat about waiting until the opener has been exchanged...only that we will not see the opener.

It would be nice to see the opener after it's exchanged. We've always seen it in the past at NWA.

Carl

11-08-2011, 04:03 PM

#79853

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

OK, this is in big font just so you read it: All posts after this one in regard to the DPA/DALPA debate must be made in the DPA thread. It's gotten out of control again, and instead of spending a bunch of time which I don't have to move the posts, this is the cut off point.

Carl- I'm expecting you to step up and take the lead on this. If I walk back in tonight and see a big chunk of your replies on this thread again, I'm going to be really really ticked.

Well then you're going to be really, really ticked dude. I'm one guy who has been attempting to respond to darn near the entire MEC bureaucracy that post here. Did you notice my use of the word RESPOND there Clamp? I do not start any discussion about DPA on this thread, I only respond to the MEC guys that feel the constant need to ridicule its supporters.

If these guys continue to START slamming the DPA and its supporters, I will continue to RESPOND to each and every one....even if it's a "big chunk". There's nothing against the TOS about responding to another's post.

The fact that you haven't noticed that I only respond is interesting. Maybe it's just because it was easier to ask one guy to "step up and take the lead" as opposed to asking the dozen or so DPA insulters to do so.

So this is easy...no insults about DPA and its supporters on this thread, and there will be no need for me to respond to them on this thread.

Carl

11-08-2011, 04:07 PM

#79854

hoserpilot

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO

This thread really has turned on a dime!

I think the bold typed language worked!

Reminds me of when my dad would break up fights between my brother and I

I was hoping it was the scantily clad women!!

11-08-2011, 04:19 PM

#79855

gloopy

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO

Just received an email from Ken Kersey crew planning. I will not cut and paste because it would be inappropriate, but he did say AE this week and that it was not a "mega bid". His comment about "not a mega bid" was in reference to sharing with him the rumors on the line about the 400 ER pilots slots being moved or surplussed.

I personally think that anything like 400 in one category would be mega....

So the AE that was supposed to be a nice positive AE is now somewhere between a slightly sucky to flat AE and a mini displacement-fest. At least our alliance partners like AF and AS are growing while we capacity discipline ourselves into shrinking to prosperity.