Originally Posted by gloopy

Agreed. In the end they will have no choice but to sumbit to either massive, immediate austerity measures to the welfare/warfare machines that the left and the right will never do, or to simply print the money. They are printing it now anyway, but they are finding buyers for it. When that ends we will all eat a huge load of stagflation lasting years. Before they wise up, they will print more money trying to "stimulate" their way out of it, making things worse in the process, making the already bad even worse before it finally gets better.

The talking heads will pimp their "market cycle" theory and keynsean fraudnomics 24/7 for years without challenge from the elites in the media and academia, and the pension mongers in congress will rubber stamp whatever comes their way.

The American people have already been directly threatened with martial law (despite the fact that it does not legally exist) by Berkane and Geithner if we don't automatically pass whatever 5000 page bill du jour nobody's read that suddenly appeared on everyone's desk for a morning vote the next day, and we've fallen for it every time.

We've seen the biggest poitical shift in congress in 70 years last year over the out of control spending, yet nothing has changed. Both sides squabble over a fraction of one percent, then settle on even less.

So yes, we are going to absolutely feast on inflation. The definiton of inflation has been modified over the years to hide the true cost to the people and its about to be modified again to further hide its effects.

I was just being sarcastic with the "raise over the life of" nonsense that ALPA and the company constantly try to sell us on. Double digit inflation for a few years could mean we get 50% raises over the life of a typical 4 or 5 year contract and still lose buying power. No one knows this better than RA with his work on the ATL fed board of governors. He even specifically mentioned stagflation as both a general economic threat as well as a specific industry issue in a very recent letter to the employees.

Whatever happens with C2012, I will not sit idly by and let a malevolent management and/or an incompetent union leadership sell their "raise over the life of" snake oil propaganda without making sure at least reasonable, average to expected inflation, compounded yearly, is 100% backed out of any and all claims of "raise over the life of". Its time we own how this debate is framed.

If we as a group settle for less, then we settle for less. Shame on us to be sure, but there is no way we are going to allow us to settle for anything while calling it more than it is.

Originally Posted by Timbo

I saw 3 or 4 in Narita last week, I think they are going to Bankok, DTW, and a couple other places, but not sure, check the DTW 747 bid package.

The funniest part of my entire 6 day trip was spending about the first two hours of the leg home (NRT-ATL) listening to some UAL clown at 320, crying on 123.45 about "...all these Slow Movers up ahead, Holding US down!"

He must have asked about 4 different airplanes, at 330, 340, 350, 360, if they could all climb...so HE could get to 340!

It's all about him, obviously!

Originally Posted by Waves

Roll Inverted said: "What if the gear handle wouldn`t come down? It`s been so long since I`ve been in a 76 cockpit, I can`t remember anything."


I don't believe the gear handle is required to be in the down position to get the gear to free fall down. With a center hydraulic system failure, the alternate gear extension procedure is started with the gear handle in the OFF position to alleviate any center system trapped pressure; however, when the ALTN GEAR EXTEND switch is pressed, the gear free falls into position regardless of gear handle position. The gear lever is then moved to the down position to eliminate gear disagree indications. I'm not certain, but I think Jughead is correct, the gear handle lock over ride switch only unlocks the gear handle so it may be moved to the up position if a ground sensor (squat switch) fails in flight. Although I suppose it could jam somehow, I don't believe there are any locks preventing the gear handle from being moved to the down position.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Go to Southwest, but not for the pay. Go for the scope and the fact their management believes in using their own employees to create the Southwest product.

Originally Posted by Waves

Excellent! Thanks Essential. In my opinion, it's not looking too good for this crew, but then I don't have all of the facts. At this point, it's just speculation on my part.

Originally Posted by Roadkill

Can anyone tell me what days in Dec end up being "unstacked"? I assume the 25th, and maybe the 24th and 26th... Does anyone remember from previous years what other days have issues? Maybe the 31st?

In Nov, I was surprised that only 24th (Thanksgiving) and 25th got unstacked in my category, and the furthest the unstack went was 9% up the line-holders list. I had expected maybe 40%, and a lot more days around the holiday.

Thanks for any thoughts on this!

Originally Posted by SVA402

This is exactly correct. So we know the airplane had electrical power from the lights being on in the video. And if the gear handle couldn't be moved to the down position, the freefall system should work. And that's even with a hydraulic system failure. So if it was none of this, and not a single one of the gear was even partially down, what might have caused this?

Originally Posted by buzzpat

Fly with a crusty ATL FA today...4 dogs and 7 cats....and she was bragging about it to the pax. C'mon new hires!!!