Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-31-2011, 08:45 AM
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Separate block/reserve has WAY too many moving parts to discuss in a vacuum like this. Temp, recall rights, monthly AE and those are just the ones that pop up quickly in my head. If we went to something like this, it would have to be done very carefully or it will be some sort of hybrid mess that none of us will recognize or like.
Now, in a vacuum, I liked it for probably the reason you said. As a commuter and on the bubble (current Delta system) one can bid into a position thinking they will be a line holder. IE, in my case I bid into SEA 330 with a 70% qualifier. So far so good, but what happens if in the next AE a bunch of senior dudes bid in and I drop to 90% and therefore reserve. In the NWA system, that wouldn't happen, there would be no line holder openings and one is safe........unless there are displacements then my displacement choice would kick in, line holder on something/someplace else.
We have much bigger fish to fry in the next section 6 and this will be too hard to get done in the section 6 context IMHO. I've flown with the father of the monthly APE system at NWA, and it was a multi-year process as I recall the stories.
Ferd
Now, in a vacuum, I liked it for probably the reason you said. As a commuter and on the bubble (current Delta system) one can bid into a position thinking they will be a line holder. IE, in my case I bid into SEA 330 with a 70% qualifier. So far so good, but what happens if in the next AE a bunch of senior dudes bid in and I drop to 90% and therefore reserve. In the NWA system, that wouldn't happen, there would be no line holder openings and one is safe........unless there are displacements then my displacement choice would kick in, line holder on something/someplace else.
We have much bigger fish to fry in the next section 6 and this will be too hard to get done in the section 6 context IMHO. I've flown with the father of the monthly APE system at NWA, and it was a multi-year process as I recall the stories.
Ferd
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10-31-2011, 08:58 AM
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As for 80, I think it was the lady down the street who said......"such a nice young man, so polite. Then they found the bodies in his backyard"
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10-31-2011, 09:02 AM
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10-31-2011, 09:05 AM
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Ferd <--------solid C accounting student back in the day
10-31-2011, 09:39 AM
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In other "news" Kim Kardashian is filing for divorce 72 days after her 10 million dollar wedding. Wish investing was as certain as the outcomes of ridiculously expensive Hollywood hook ups.
10-31-2011, 09:40 AM
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New 22 D 2 for May 12
There is a new 22d2 posted for May 12. I know this is not head count but it is a good indicator of what block hours are doing compared to the year before. For May 2011 total pilots required was 10297 and for May 2012 it is 9955. Most of the categories are the similar to the prior year. The biggest change was the DTW 744. CA went fm 224 to 180 and the FO's went from 251 to 190. This bid coming up could be interesting.
10-31-2011, 09:50 AM
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There is a new 22d2 posted for May 12. I know this is not head count but it is a good indicator of what block hours are doing compared to the year before. For May 2011 total pilots required was 10297 and for May 2012 it is 9955. Most of the categories are the similar to the prior year. The biggest change was the DTW 744. CA went fm 224 to 180 and the FO's went from 251 to 190. This bid coming up could be interesting.
10-31-2011, 09:51 AM
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And they never did post a bid to replace the 30 (in each seat) 744 Early Outs.
But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?
We shall see...
But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?
We shall see...
10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
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IMHO, DAL is just waiting to pounce and when they do it will surprise almost everyone.
10-31-2011, 09:55 AM
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And they never did post a bid to replace the 30 (in each seat) 744 Early Outs.
But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?
We shall see...
But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?
We shall see...
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