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Old 10-29-2011, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
Good news. All 16 747s to be modified with lay flats and the 2 that were going back to lease holders returning next year. Now who was it that said DAL wants out of the 4 eng business?? Scambo maybe or did I guess wrong?? .
I know I said it, and long term I still think its a given. Its great we're not dumping the 2 whales right now, but unless we order the -800 (unlikely) or the 380 (not going to happen) I just don't see us keeping barely over a dozen -400's long term against the more efficient 4 engine planes coming online. Especially when our government subsidizes foreign airlines over us to get the very expensive planes. We'll see.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:32 PM
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Lesson #3 of the day for DALPA:

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Old 10-29-2011, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hero68
Contract question...any help appreciated! Finished a trip earlier this month with a medical divert from Europe to Jfk...landed in Iceland for about an hour. We thought that we would get paid for the ground time also (as flight time) since the pax never got off the aircraft. Talked to the pilot pay specialist who was a little confused as he was looking into REROUTE pay which is not what we did....anybody know if we only get straight flight pay for these types of diverts. I remember we had a side letter or LOA back around the time of the merger that discussed this . Any help would be greatly appreciated here since I will not hold my breath in trying to contact any admin people this weekend!
I think it depends on whether you, "blocked in" in Iceland. Was the boarding door ever opened? I think if it was, then it's just like a regular flight. You should get the extra block time, but not the ground time.

However, I'm not a scheduling expert. :-)

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Old 10-29-2011, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I've stopped using public Wifi systems, even if they have security in place. They threat is too dangerous. Would you knowingly connect your computer to a hacker or allow a hacker to read the information you send/receive? Of course you wouldn't.

Here is one quick way to steal your information.

I will use my personal wifi at home (I'm in a rural area) and will use my cellphones 4G connection when out on a rotation. The 4G network is very fast. I can listen to a radio station, YouTube ... ok Xtube ..., and Facebook/email all at the same time. How much more bandwidth do you need?
What do you really do online that is so important anyway? Anything I do with personal info is behind https. Don't be so paranoid.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
What do you really do online that is so important anyway? Anything I do with personal info is behind https. Don't be so paranoid.
I don't think that would matter if it was a hacker's own, fake network where everything was recorded. That's way more dangerous than someone just spying on you while on another "secure" network.

That was an interesting news piece.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Why is this bad? The passengers have to move. None of the money is going to Quantas. The Quantas employees should encourage this. It will put more pressure on Quantas.
Who told you none of the money is going to Qantas? Did it occur to you that these companies might just have relationships which helps Qantas while they park their airplanes?
The typical Qanta pax if ultimately taken care of may not think any thing of it if minorily inconvenienced.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:46 PM
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Who told you none of the money is going to Qantas? Did it occur to you that these companies might just have relationships which helps Qantas while they park their airplanes?
The typical Qanta pax if ultimately taken care of may not think any thing of it if minorily inconvenienced.
Typically when an airline work group strikes, they want the competition to poach as much revenue and market share from the company they are striking. Not sure about any murky tertiary issues like "strike insurance" and/or some kind of revenue sharing as you brought up though. The article basically said Virgin Australia was looking into their partners to pick up the Qantas slack. That in and of itself would be good for the Qantas work groups because it would put ever increasing pressure on their current and future bottom line as long as revenue wasn't shared with Qantas over it.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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And just how did you arrive at that conclusion?
Look it up on Flightaware.com. Put in DAL184 in top left box for flight number, and then scroll down and look at the flights each night from JFK to CDG (there is an aircraft change from Portland to JFK, a 73N, and then onto CDG). It says every other night in the last month has been a 767-300. Why would it be a 747-400 tonight ONLY? Maybe they expect more passengers tomorrow. If it were a charter, it would have 4 digits like 9939. Pretty smart, eh?

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Old 10-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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That is just a self-serving rationalization to work with management to put your competition, and incidentally your union brothers, out of business. I was on the EAL BOS strike committee and I don't remember anyone there asking Delta's pilots to work extra to put us out of business and work. How'd you like JB adding sections if you go out? Perhaps, UAL could add extra sections out of Atlanta.

If your theory held water, SW coming into ATL should help your upcoming negotiations.

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Old 10-29-2011, 08:07 PM
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If your theory held water, SW coming into ATL should help your upcoming negotiations.

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I think it does. Our biggest competitor in our biggest hub has domestic narrowbody pilots that are paid about 50% higher than our domestic narrowbody pilots.

I especially like the way FTB puts it. Why does Delta pay it's female and minority pilots about 33% less than SWA pays it's white, male pilots?
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