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Old 10-24-2011, 08:10 PM
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
50% day one. Would accept as low as 30% on day one, but only if we reached C2K+COLA by the end of the contract, and no longer than 5 years to reach it.
That's not a bad idea.

And specify the annual raise as CPI plus a fixed number.
That way we hedge against inflation (likely to go up) and the fixed annual increase number is a lower number and easier to sell from a PR standpoint.
Think how credit cards index the interest rate as a fixed increase over a variable rate...

lets say CPI = +3.5%
Lets say fixed annual increase = 5%

Actual annual increase = 8.5%

Also make that annual increase for as long as the contract is in place. No more financial incentive to drag anything out...
Otherwise we're in a zero sum game and inflation will eat the majority of the percentage increase.

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Old 10-24-2011, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DAWGS
I think you're right regarding mergers, however when the majority of these groups are younger and have better relative seniority vs. Delta, we bottom dwellers will stagnate. The retirements won't help most of us because we will retire before them. The ironic part is Alaska pilots have had their seniority inflated due in part to its relationship with Delta, to the detriment of our pilot group. This same boost to their seniority would be used against us in the SLI. I do agree, I would rather have it in-house via merger vs. outsourced. My first choice is to reign in scope with this contract. Many are benefiting from the great outsourcing our contract allows except the mainline Delta pilot. No amount of money from RA will get a yes vote out of me unless scope is significantly reigned in. Scope is the gift that keeps on giving to MGT and other pilot groups, but has been the consistent boot in my arse! This worst part is we are only to blame.

I couldn't agree any more!!

Tightening SCOPE or recapturing it or I vote no. Now is the time to do it while mgmt says RJs are bad.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Whidbey
I get the feeling that is what our union is preparing us for. The company will certainly argue that the passage of time (and the JCBA) constitute a tacit acceptance of that position on our part. Accepting marginal pay and work rule improvements "over the life of a contract" will certainly reset the baseline.

I understand and agree with the ALPA stance on not publicizing our survey results and not publicizing our negotiating priorities. I can even live with not knowing what the opener is.

However, after the last two road shows I went to where I heard TO and other union guys be very critical of the APA, I get the feeling that they are of the opinion that aiming lower to get something now is better than negotiating for an extended period of time for (larger) gains they don't feel are achievable.
The APA guys went in guns a-blazing and made emotional demands with a stratedgy that seemed almost arbitrary. All I am advocating is to respectfully engage the company and NMB with SWA plus reasonablepremiums in all areas. For every one area where SWA plus a reasonable premium would come up short, we can take that little bit out of SWA scope, which any amount of remaining JV, AK and DCI should more than cover, even as we fix all three substantially.

The NMB is madly in love with profitable peer group comparison. There is no immaginable excuse, other than a public admission of inferior management, as to why we can't get SWA plus reasonable premiums in all areas including scope.

How much above in all areas is reasonable? Well that's what negotiations and the process of mediation are for.
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:51 AM
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Guessing 1.02 EPS....
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:57 AM
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$765 million dollar profit.

I'm so glad we've had our expectations managed downwards to 5% increase over bankruptcy save the company wages over 5 years.

My only question is you have Sailing, who is more pro-ALPA then pro-DPA , saying SWA pay ain't enough.

is that a minority or majority within the circle of DALPA? Because maybe DALPA realized this was coming and said, oh, survey extended because you couldn't vote on a China overnight and btw think about this as you insert your % increases. ?

One could only hope such a sly move was intentional.
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:58 AM
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(RTTNews) - Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL: News ) reported that its third-quarter net income was $549 million or $0.65 per share, up from $363 million or $0.43 per share in the same quarter last year.

Delta's net income for the latest quarter was $765 million or $0.91 per share, excluding special items. Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters expected the company to report earnings of $0.93 per share for the quarter. Analysts' estimates typically exclude special items.

The company posted special items totaling a $216 million charge in the latest quarter, primarily related to mark to market adjustments for open fuel hedges settling in future periods.

Total operating revenue for the quarter rose to $9.82 billion from $8.95 billion in the prior year quarter. Thirteen analysts had consensus revenue estimate of $9.73 billion for the quarter.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:01 AM
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:26 AM
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Here's more good news...

-- The House voted Monday to exclude U.S. airlines from an emissions cap-and-trade program that the European Union plans to impose on all airlines flying to and from the continent beginning next year.
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