Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-20-2011, 06:20 PM
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You guys are missing the "between the lines". The mention of potential consolidation in the last paragraph is no accident. In fact it makes me think moves are already afoot to acq either AK or both AK and Hawaiian.
W slot swap done and in hand... The western front is next.
I say NO interim mergers. Agreements. Pwa's of ANY kind, until C12 is in the bag. I have moved backwards since this merger as have ALL of my W2's and I'm sick of it.
W slot swap done and in hand... The western front is next.
I say NO interim mergers. Agreements. Pwa's of ANY kind, until C12 is in the bag. I have moved backwards since this merger as have ALL of my W2's and I'm sick of it.
I dunno, AK is waaaay too expensive. Hawaiian, maybe sometime soon, they're cheap and fleet compatable. South American piece of AA, with a little JAL/asia thrown in? Too early to speculate and it sounds morbid anyway.
10-20-2011, 06:30 PM
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You guys are missing the "between the lines". The mention of potential consolidation in the last paragraph is no accident. In fact it makes me think moves are already afoot to acq either AK or both AK and Hawaiian.
W slot swap done and in hand... The western front is next.
I say NO interim mergers. Agreements. Pwa's of ANY kind, until C12 is in the bag. I have moved backwards since this merger as have ALL of my W2's and I'm sick of it.
W slot swap done and in hand... The western front is next.
I say NO interim mergers. Agreements. Pwa's of ANY kind, until C12 is in the bag. I have moved backwards since this merger as have ALL of my W2's and I'm sick of it.
"Cake!"
Cheers
George
10-20-2011, 06:32 PM
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Gloopy,
I disagree with you here. You do not value PS passes - OK no worries, but we have 12,000 Pilots that all have different priorities. I personally would love some PS vacation Passes. Why not ask for all of it? Why do positive space passes have to come at the expense of pay, work-rules, scope etc? And no, I am not willing to give up pay to get them - but some guys might.
Are they on top of my list? No, but personally they are currently more valuable to me then the DAL health care plan, commuting policies, and a bunch of other things that I don't use, and even though I don't currently use these items I do realize that they are far more important to the Pilot group as a whole.
Lets not disparage the things that we don't personally value but lets complete the survey - find out what most guys value - and then go after that.
And finally, screw the whole "Pie" analogy - we need a bigger pie!
Scoop
I disagree with you here. You do not value PS passes - OK no worries, but we have 12,000 Pilots that all have different priorities. I personally would love some PS vacation Passes. Why not ask for all of it? Why do positive space passes have to come at the expense of pay, work-rules, scope etc? And no, I am not willing to give up pay to get them - but some guys might.
Are they on top of my list? No, but personally they are currently more valuable to me then the DAL health care plan, commuting policies, and a bunch of other things that I don't use, and even though I don't currently use these items I do realize that they are far more important to the Pilot group as a whole.
Lets not disparage the things that we don't personally value but lets complete the survey - find out what most guys value - and then go after that.
And finally, screw the whole "Pie" analogy - we need a bigger pie!
Scoop
I'm tired of the political banter. I want paid more yesterday. I'm tired of living paycheck to paycheck. This new contract can't come soon enough.
10-20-2011, 06:32 PM
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I think it is unlikely AA will divest anything. Other than as a threat towards our brotheren currently negotiating over there.
My point is that there is no way I will vote for another merger inANY way... Until we have our concessionary contract removed and a new one in 2012... Or whenever in place. THEN maybe we can talk consolidation. And where the red Swingline stapler is.
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10-20-2011, 06:35 PM
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That would be the big dog move...
Cheers
George
10-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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Positive space passes are pretty much worthless. I tried to use my one great team passes a couple times. There are never any of the seat class available on the flights I have wanted to take. I want to make enough money to just buy my own tickets on whatever airline is most convenient.
I'm tired of the political banter. I want paid more yesterday. I'm tired of living paycheck to paycheck. This new contract can't come soon enough.
I'm tired of the political banter. I want paid more yesterday. I'm tired of living paycheck to paycheck. This new contract can't come soon enough.
I now have an expensive visit to the ER to pay for. And I don't mean the 767. I mean Children's in Atlanta.
Hello payment plan!!!
10-20-2011, 06:39 PM
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Karma's a real biatch, and we don't need any more negative vibes coming back to us. We've got too much on our plate already.
Nu
10-20-2011, 06:39 PM
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The red Swingline was broken a while back and can't be used anymore as in the past. There's some experimentation with a smaller less capable one going on in Texas though...I hear it can have unexpected results.
Cake!
Cheers
George
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10-20-2011, 06:40 PM
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10-20-2011, 06:45 PM
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No offense Scambo, but, personally, I think it's in poor taste talk about picking up pieces of an airline, espeically one with such a storied history as AMR, and who's pilots are even now fighting for a restorative contract.
Karma's a real biatch, and we don't need any more negative vibes coming back to us. We've got too much on our plate already.
Nu
Karma's a real biatch, and we don't need any more negative vibes coming back to us. We've got too much on our plate already.
Nu
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