forgot to bid

Don't forget, all we need to tell the press is that we think it is completely unfair that Delta's female and minority pilots get paid significantly less than their white male counterparts at Southwest and all we are asking for is EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY.

End the discrimination. And I guarantee you the local media and USA Today won't figure it out.

buzzpat

Hey, I've got an idea guys....how about we stage an "Occupy Virginia Avenue" movement until we get what we want on this contract?

Ferd can bring the beer, Carl can be the dude with the microphone, I'll draw up the signs, FTB can be the big union guy enforcer that keeps people away from Carl, Clamp is in charge of port-a-potties and cheerleaders, Jesse can help out with the cheerleaders, T will be our media spokesperson firing off snarky comments when asked about what we stand for.......I'm sure there are hundreds of other positions that you guys can come up with.

Whaddya think?

Roadkill

Note to others... if you do the survey all in one sitting and submit it, it won't let you later make changes without re-doing the entire thing! You have to click the "save survey" button before submitting. Although it seems obvious that submitting the survey SAVES the data to them, and you SHOULD be able to go back and pull it up and edit, it doesn't work, it only lets you edit and re-input "saved" data.
This isn't clear in the instructions:
" If after you submit your survey, you decide to change any answers you have two options. Please remember, the survey period must still be open to change any answers.

1) You may come back in and select 'Resume Saved Survey.' "

This irks me a lot, as I REALLY don't feel like re-doing all those "rank 1 through 10" questions just to go in and refine my text answers as I had intended, now that I've read up some more.

Word to the wise, be sure to click "SAVE SURVEY" before submitting!

Roadkill

While I'm on it, I did notice that for SLI pay, it only gave me the ability to increase it or stay the same... no choices to reduce it. Saw the same thing on several areas that I really am not super concerned with, and might have allowed slight decreases in benefits to in order to gain scope and pay... but the contract answers didn't offer me that choice. It appeared to me that the survey was written by SLI-type guys with an agenda to ensure their pay and work-rules were increased, and one-sided questions were disproportionately placed in the survey to ensure that answer was received.
I'm not the most educated guy here on the contract, despite reading all the material I've been sent and a lot here, and it's possible all the scope issues were well covered by the survey... but it sure SEEMED to me that there were more questions on SLI stuff applicable only to a small fraction, and we could have stood to have some questions specifically on AK, specifically on the AF JV, specifically on bases, specifically on positive space for commutes, on putting DAL pilots on equal footing for DCI non-rev to/from work or even giving us priority, on allowing DAL pilots to book the JS for DCI. This stuff is vastly more important to me, and I'd bet to a much larger fraction of the pilot list (who commute or think they MIGHT commute some time in the future, i.e. nearly everyone!), than the SLI list. And YES, I could write all all this into text boxes, but questions should have been asked on this instead.

acl65pilot

Gloopy,

Yes DAL would have to assume the payments, but using the ACA agreement as you template is way off. All of these agreements have been modified, some require more cash up front if terminated, and some require less. SKW's CPA for example would cost DAL a ton of money, but the RJET or GoJet/CPS CPA's are more "at risk" type of flying.

DAL has reduced the guaranteed margins on many of them but some of that does still exist, and whether or not DAL is on the hook is part of the non disclosed sections of the agreement. I agree with sunset provisions, and like the idea that is they sign a long term deal they should eat that cost just for doing it.

forgot to bid

A few suggestions:

A) I'd like to swap cheerleading management jobs with Clamp.

B) Do we have to stay in tents? This is VA Avenue after all. I mean all of those kids at Occupy Wall Street are having their Iphones and $5500 Mac Book Pro's stolen and they're quite upset about having stuff taken from them without permission.

C) I'd like to swap cheerleading management jobs with Clamp.

D) Let's not start today. It's like 40F and strong winds here today.

E) And I want a hammock.

F) Carl might also want a microphone...

buzzpat

A) and C): Bid what you want, want what you bid. You and Clamp can switch duties but you pick up the port-a-potties as part of the swap.

B) Tents or the old training hotel, kind of a toss up in my book. What we definitely don't want to do is stay in the nicer places along VA...might run into some ALPA and management types.

D) Okay, we can actually start in LA and work east. Its 72 and sunny today.

E) Granted. Everyone gets a hammock....and we'll get a microphone for Carl. In an effort to save money, I don't think T needs one.

hoserpilot

Screw the tents. I'll be on the forbidden 4th floor of the training center. Thats where all the new-hire flight attendants stay.

buzzpat

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, excellent! That's the kind of brain power we need boyz!!

vprMatrix

Well the AF KLM contract comparison is out...

Not exactly what TO'M said we would be getting at the PTC roadshow.

This is just embarrassingly sad.



vpr