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Old 10-18-2011, 05:09 AM
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Very nice Chairman's letter from Council 20 showed up in my email box this evening. My feeling? - TT gets it.
I was impressed
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:44 AM
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American Airlines closes San Francisco pilot baseOctober 17, 2011



American Airlines is closing its pilot base in San Francisco, because of a “critical” pilot shortage stemming from retirements, according to the Dallas Morning News.
An American official said the recent surge in pilot retirements has left the company’s manning levels critically short to the detriment of its schedule reliability.
“The current economic environment also leaves us faced with making tough choices about where and how we spend our money, and this closure will save significant reserve and management cost.”
American has approximately 270 pilots based in San Francisco, the company said. The change will mean that pilots who live in the area will have to commute to one of American’s other bases to begin their assignments.
American has had 240 pilots retire since the end of August, and 368 this year, compared to an average of 11 per month last year, the story said.
American said it will reduce capacity by 3% in the fourth quarter, and may lay off some workers in the process.
This is sad

A once great company now looking like a "has been". I hope we don't end up in the shape their in, one day....................
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTriColor
This is sad

A once great company now looking like a "has been". I hope we don't end up in the shape their in, one day....................
We were once in worse shape. Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt. NOT fun.

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Old 10-18-2011, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Dolphin. But you have to change the UserAgent string. There are directions on the DeltaNet for doing it. You may have to cut and paste this into your browser once you log into DeltaNet.


https://connect.delta.com/f5-w-687474703a2f2f646c6e65742e64656c74612e636f6d$$/tibadmin/DocumentDownload?docname=FOP/Communication/News_Brief/article_0084267.pdf

Thanks Justdoinmyjob! Took me awhile to get it setup, but it's working now.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:01 AM
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What happened to PG's thread for Tsquare? I had some pictures.



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Old 10-18-2011, 10:35 AM
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October 18, 2011, 11:58 AM ET

Airlines (Even AMR!) Rising; Data Shows Passenger Revenue Growing

By Avi Salzman

Airline stocks rose in morning trading after the Air Transport Association said last night that capacity continued to tighten in the industry in September and airlines are getting more revenue from each passenger per available seat mile.

“The US domestic market (excluding express results) continues to impress, with September traffic up by 0.4% on 2.1% less capacity, for a load factor of 83.6%. Passenger unit revenue growth outpaced the total system and was up by 14.2%,” writes Helane Becker, an analyst at Dahlman Rose.

Becker expects Southwest (LUV) to benefit from the strong domestic environment, because it is the largest mainline carrier in the U.S. Southwest, however, said that it will sell some discounted tickets in November and December, which is a somewhat troubling sign.

Airlines also appear to be performing well in Latin America as passenger unit revenue rose 14.2%.

“Copa Holdings (CPA) will benefit the most from strength in the Latin American region followed by AMR (AMR), United Continental (UAL), and Delta Air Lines (DAL),” Becker writes.




Will the above help us achieve Southwest+ ??? What does the accountant Pineapple guy say? He said I need to take accounting 101 to understand why we shouldn't get a big raise, and it had to do with RASM.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:05 AM
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Will the above help us achieve Southwest+ ??? What does the accountant Pineapple guy say? He said I need to take accounting 101 to understand why we shouldn't get a big raise, and it had to do with RASM.
Several things.

1) I no longer want SWA pay. I think Sailing is right to say SWA should not be our benchmark. If this new deal passes with SWA/FL and 717s are held at FL pay rates then I don't want that contract at all. FedEx+ for me.

2) What will help us achieve a great contract? The willingness to walk off the job. Plain and simple.

It's not about how the company is doing- we're not the sales force. We negotiate for what we're worth and despite what that flaming idiot UAL Captain wrote in ALPA magazine a month or so back said, we are worth the money.

If we do as any other invaluable manager of DAL is allowed to do and leave if the pay isn't what it should be then than those who agreed with the flaming idiotic editorial will find out what we're worth. Because unlike every important manager at this airline, if we walk off the planes stop flying.

3) I think given the pay rates of today and the direction of this company nobody has any business lecturing the pilot group on expectations. If the pilot group wants $300,000 Captains on average then that's what the pilot group wants and it is ALPA's job to go get it, or they may be fired and a new group of negotiators/representatives/lawyers hired, and so be it if that's the pilots will.

But it is also the pilot group's responsibility to wisely determine if what ALPA gets is acceptable.

4) I think we have an A+ management team. People who sell them short are pretty clueless if you ask me. Anyone who is as contribution margin focused as this group is deserves a lot of credit for looking beyond the typical accountants gross margin calculation which is devoid of an understanding of what makes a company strong in this industry. An accountant would say de-bank (sp?) to save money, someone who knows what they're doing says bank the flights to make more profit then you'd bank de-banked.

That's my rant.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Several things.

1) I no longer want SWA pay. I think Sailing is right to say SWA+. I think however if this new deal passes with SWA/FL and 717s are held at FL pay rates then I don't want that. FedEx+ for me.

2) What will help us achieve a great contract? The willingness to walk off the job. Plain and simple. It's not about how the company is doing, we're not the sales force. We negotiate for what we're worth and despite what that flaming idiot UAL Captain that wrote that ALPA editorial a month or so back said, we are worth the money.

If we do as any other invaluable manager of DAL is allowed to do and leave if the pay isn't what it should be then we will find out what we're worth. And unlike every manager at this airline, if we walk off the planes stop flying.

3) I think given the pay rates of today and the direction of this company nobody has any business lecturing the pilot group on expectations. If the pilot group wants $300,000 Captains on average then that's what the pilot group wants and it is ALPA's job to go get it, or they may be fired and a new group of negotiators/representatives/lawyers hired, and so be it if that's the pilots will. But it is also the pilot's group responsibility to wisely determine if what ALPA gets is acceptable.

4) I think we have an A+ management team. People who sell them short are pretty clueless if you ask me. Anyone who is as contribution margin focused as this group is deserves a lot of credit for looking beyond the typical accountants gross margin calculation which is devoid of an understanding of what makes a company strong in this industry.

That's my rant.
Couldn't have said it better. My sentiments EXACTLY.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:58 AM
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Heard a rumor today.... ASA moving most of 50 pax RJ fleet to Memphis and more mainline coming to Atlanta to compete with Luv. ASA displacement bid to be posted next week for ATL
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