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10-17-2011, 03:59 AM
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Regarding the topic of making sure large turboprops are covered by the C2012 scope clause:
I can speak with a little authority on this subject, being as I flew Q400s for Horizon Air for several years. We operated them in a single-class configuration, 70 seats at first and later 76. Same passenger count as the E175 I fly now, despite a max gross weight of 65k lbs vs 89k lbs. The thing absolutely sips fuel... we're talking roughly half the fuel burn of a E175 at middling altitude cruise, at 360 KTAS vs 440. Break even load factor, even with Horizon's relatively high labor costs, was something like 35%. Its one downfall was reliability. It's an absolute hangar queen. The very best Horizon ever got out of them was around 98% reliability, and that's with in-house maintenance that was very experienced on that airframe. Basically deHavilland was sold to Boeing and then Bombardier during the development, and Bombardier rushed it to market without ironing out all the bugs. That's the one thing that has stopped airlines from ordering these things by the hundreds. But for the reliability problems, it's far more efficient than a jet on any route under 500nm, and is unlimited by most scope clauses.
The reason this is important is that Bombardier has finally started to sell a lot more Q400s in the last few years. As the type becomes more common, the bugs are slowly getting ironed out. Meanwhile Bombardier is planning an even larger type based on the Q400, projected to hold up to 100 passengers. Whatever DAL management's current public position towards turboprops, they will take a very good hard look at this if they see it as a way around scope clauses. It could be an MD80 killer in certain markets. As an outsider looking in, and someone who hopes to be at DAL soon, I'd suggest mentioning turboprop scope in your contract surveys. I'm not sure it's even on DALPA's radar, but it should be.
I can speak with a little authority on this subject, being as I flew Q400s for Horizon Air for several years. We operated them in a single-class configuration, 70 seats at first and later 76. Same passenger count as the E175 I fly now, despite a max gross weight of 65k lbs vs 89k lbs. The thing absolutely sips fuel... we're talking roughly half the fuel burn of a E175 at middling altitude cruise, at 360 KTAS vs 440. Break even load factor, even with Horizon's relatively high labor costs, was something like 35%. Its one downfall was reliability. It's an absolute hangar queen. The very best Horizon ever got out of them was around 98% reliability, and that's with in-house maintenance that was very experienced on that airframe. Basically deHavilland was sold to Boeing and then Bombardier during the development, and Bombardier rushed it to market without ironing out all the bugs. That's the one thing that has stopped airlines from ordering these things by the hundreds. But for the reliability problems, it's far more efficient than a jet on any route under 500nm, and is unlimited by most scope clauses.
The reason this is important is that Bombardier has finally started to sell a lot more Q400s in the last few years. As the type becomes more common, the bugs are slowly getting ironed out. Meanwhile Bombardier is planning an even larger type based on the Q400, projected to hold up to 100 passengers. Whatever DAL management's current public position towards turboprops, they will take a very good hard look at this if they see it as a way around scope clauses. It could be an MD80 killer in certain markets. As an outsider looking in, and someone who hopes to be at DAL soon, I'd suggest mentioning turboprop scope in your contract surveys. I'm not sure it's even on DALPA's radar, but it should be.
I'm a major airline pilot who does not see these airplanes as being below me.
10-17-2011, 04:05 AM
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So let me get this straight...you just started Spackle Air, and you are already oursoucing the smaller, 2 engine, "69" seat flying to any other SCC (DCC but with Spackle instead) with a crew that looks good in a Bikini??
Are you really that shallow??
(rhetorical, of course you are, we all are!)
OK, now that we have established what you are (a *****) let's talk about price...
What's it going to take to hire some young hotties in a bikini at DL Mainline?? Or do we have to bid down to DCC to get some of that?
And why don't you at least post a picture with an airplane of some type, instead of two chicks on the beach? (ps, yours is fat...)
Are you really that shallow??
(rhetorical, of course you are, we all are!)
OK, now that we have established what you are (a *****) let's talk about price...
What's it going to take to hire some young hotties in a bikini at DL Mainline?? Or do we have to bid down to DCC to get some of that?
And why don't you at least post a picture with an airplane of some type, instead of two chicks on the beach? (ps, yours is fat...)
10-17-2011, 04:15 AM
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There isn't a plane at DCI or Spacklair or Spacklair Connection that I don't want to fly. I'll fly anything.
So I say bring the Q400 straight to mainline!
Whoa...
So I say bring the Q400 straight to mainline!
Whoa...
10-17-2011, 05:00 AM
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10-17-2011, 05:11 AM
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10-17-2011, 06:21 AM
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Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) Plans $100m Airport Upgrade
Posted on 17 October 2011
It has been reported that Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) has plans to invest US$100 million on LaGuardia Airport upgrade.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) Plans $100m Airport Upgrade
Delta Air Lines
The company has already welcomed the approval of slot transaction by the Department of Transportation at New York-LaGuardia and Washington-Reagan National airports, and is now planning a huge investment.
Richard Anderson, Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL)’s chief executive officer, said that, “Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) wants to thank DOT and the FAA for their final approval of the slot transaction, which will enhance competition, create new jobs, reduce air space congestion in New York City and greatly increase travel choices for our customers in New York. We agree with the DOT that the slot transaction has significant consumer benefits in both New York and Washington, D.C., and look forward to implementing our agreement with US Airways and rolling out our expanded LaGuardia schedule next year. We also look forward to bringing substantial new construction and service jobs to New York as facilities are expanded and modernized to create a Delta Air Lines (NYSEAL) hub operation”.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) shares were at 8.57 at the end of the last day’s trading. There’s been a 1.9% change in the stock price over the past 3 months.
Posted on 17 October 2011
It has been reported that Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) has plans to invest US$100 million on LaGuardia Airport upgrade.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) Plans $100m Airport Upgrade
Delta Air Lines
The company has already welcomed the approval of slot transaction by the Department of Transportation at New York-LaGuardia and Washington-Reagan National airports, and is now planning a huge investment.
Richard Anderson, Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL)’s chief executive officer, said that, “Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) wants to thank DOT and the FAA for their final approval of the slot transaction, which will enhance competition, create new jobs, reduce air space congestion in New York City and greatly increase travel choices for our customers in New York. We agree with the DOT that the slot transaction has significant consumer benefits in both New York and Washington, D.C., and look forward to implementing our agreement with US Airways and rolling out our expanded LaGuardia schedule next year. We also look forward to bringing substantial new construction and service jobs to New York as facilities are expanded and modernized to create a Delta Air Lines (NYSE
AL) hub operation”.Delta Air Lines (NYSE : DAL) shares were at 8.57 at the end of the last day’s trading. There’s been a 1.9% change in the stock price over the past 3 months.
10-17-2011, 06:24 AM
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Delta first, Southwest last in survey
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
10-17-2011, 06:29 AM
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The picture next to the article is not exactly a confidence builder in green airline travel...
10-17-2011, 06:31 AM
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Delta first, Southwest last in survey
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
I just hope that SWA can train our newhires fast enough for us to keep up with the growth. bwaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa
10-17-2011, 07:06 AM
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Delta first, Southwest last in survey
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
Triangle Business Journal by Chris Bagley, Staff Writer
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 9:57am EDT
Delta soars among business travelers.
The two largest airlines operating at Raleigh-Durham International Airport rank at the top and bottom of the spectrum in terms of the business-travel experience, according to a trade publication.
Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) – Raleigh-Durham’s No. 2 airline in terms of passenger numbers – finished first among five major U.S. airlines in an annual survey by Business Travel News . Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) – Raleigh-Durham’s leading carrier by traffic – ranked last.
Business Travel News compiled the rankings based on 400 travel managers’ and buyers’ evaluations of the five carriers on 10 criteria, including price value, customer service, complaint resolution, and flexibility in negotiating transient fares and prices for meetings, services, and amenities.
Recent mergers played an important role in the rankings. BTN considered Southwest and its recently acquired Air Tran Airways together, though they are only beginning to integrate their operations.
Ditto for United Airlines and Continental Airlines , which came in second despite Continental’s top finish last year. The two have shared a corporate parent, United Continental Holdings (NYSE: UAL) since last year, and BTN said some travel managers suggested that the airlines lost the top spot this year because of integration-related issues.
As for Southwest and AirTran, “Respondents saw little flexibility from the carrier in structuring preferred airline agreements and reported difficulty in booking some of its airfares through preferred channels,” Jay Boehmer wrote in BTN’s report.
Meanwhile, Delta appears to have smoothly integrated Northwest Airlines, which it acquired in 2008, some travelers said. And Delta benefits from advanced television service that Northwest had installed in many of its planes pre-acquisition.
US Airways (NYSE: LCC) finished third in the survey, and American Airlines (NYSE: AMR) finished fourth. The airlines are No. 3 and No. 4 at Raleigh-Durham in terms of passenger numbers.
Travel managers credited US Air’s improvement from last place in 2010 to increased flexibility in negotiating rates and services.
At 24/7 Wall Street, writer Douglas McIntyre opined that American slipped from second place partly as a result of service cuts that the carrier has made amid eroding finances. McIntyre also noted that American’s share price has plunged 60 percent from its 52-week high, while other carriers have fallen only 25 to 40 percent.
Major carriers have been beset this year by rising fuel costs and falling passenger numbers, even as regional airlines report increased traffic, both at Raleigh-Durham and nationally.
As Vice President Joe Biden has said, "this is a big ********** deal!". Inherent in SWA's culture is "be egalitarian", meaning "asserting or resulting from belief in the equality of all people".
Southwest Airlines Careers - Our Culture
That's great with regards to the Constitution & voting, but if you're purchasing a higher level of service as business travelers do, Delta wins hands down. I think it'll take a big shift in SWA culture to cater to High Value Customers.
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