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Old 10-11-2011, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tab Flyer
Includes a tour of downtown Newark.
Not many other pilots to talk with though.
But don't the young FAs fly mostly out of EWR?
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:03 PM
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(1) Getting EWR off the list of NYC airports might be worth a comment on the contract survey. Make C.S. figure out how to get you across the river.

(2) As a shrinking, stagnating, outsourcing airline there are just some things that result in asking the magic 8 ball, "is that worth it" ?

Noted that loyalty is reciprocated. Hey, maybe management would have better luck getting one of their preferred operators for "Delta" flying to cover that trip.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Makes that SWAPA 6+ credit per day minimum sound pretty good doesn't it. That ain't all that is good about that SWAPA contract.

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Straight out of the SWAPA handbook.

SWAPA considers our Duty and Trip Rigs to be the strongest in the industry, as they protect pilot productivity and efficiency.
• Minimum Daily guarantee is 6.5 TFP; Ex., a 3-day trip pays a minimum of 19.5 TFP .
• Duty hour rig is .74 TFP per hour, minimum.
• Reserve guarantee is 90 TFP per month; but actual months pay average around 105 TFP .
• Reserves are allowed to pick-up extra flying.
• Holidays pay 150 percent.
• Open Time trips pay up to 150 percent.

Please take note here....THREE day trip in example....not four.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:16 PM
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and remember 1 tfp = 1.13 hrs. so 6.5 tfp per day is actually a 7.345 min day.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
and remember 1 tfp = 1.13 hrs. so 6.5 tfp per day is actually a 7.345 min day.
That sounds about right. I saw a junior SWA FO's 4 day trip and it was worth 29.5 trips. Coming from a DC-9 guy, it was totally easy. Two of the four days had 3 legs. One day had 4 legs. And one day in the middle of the trip even had 2 legs!

I think he said a 12 year FO makes $190 a trip. Cha ching -- Fire bell please.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
But don't the young FAs fly mostly out of EWR?
Yes and No. It's a mix as some mid seniority FAs live in Jersey and PA.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
and remember 1 tfp = 1.13 hrs. so 6.5 tfp per day is actually a 7.345 min day.

Sadly, I think you got that backwards and believe me I would be the first guy to wish you had not. 1 hour = 1.13 tfp. 1 tfp = 52 minutes.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Sadly, I think you got that backwards and believe me I would be the first guy to wish you had not. 1 hour = 1.13 tfp. 1 tfp = 52 minutes.
That is correct.
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
N9373M, do you still live in Beaufort? I'm down that way 3-4 times a year.
Prince of Tides was the Streisand film...my little sister is an extra on one of the beach scenes, and your Gump film was filmed there also (Actually Hunting and Fripp Islands)
PM'd boring details of my life. Santini was filmed when I was in High Skool - a lot of my classmates and my HS were in that film as well as a great deal of KNBC. Gotta love the F4 "sound of freedom".
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Johnso, I agree. we could fly our jets more, thus requiring more pilots.
Unfortunately we are currently reducing capacity somewhere around 4% YOY.

Alaska otoh is adding jets, growing the fleet nearly 20% in the next 4 years, increasing capacity 8% YOY. That growth includes parked 737-400s.

At Delta we have been adding MD90, but we've been parking DC-9s. The MD90 can carry a heck of a lot more pax then even the biggest 9. With reduced capacity that means fewer pilots required, pilot neutral for modest capacity growth...

As announced, our big 737-900 order is also net zero for the fleet count.

Some say, we might not park all of the 757, or that the mythical 717 will be added to the fleet. All we know is that those are rumors and the fact the Delta carrier adding jets and pilots is called the Eskimo.

Cheers
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And Alaska was furloughing while we were hiring. It's all cyclical. I don't think Alaska is going to come to LGA to do East Coast flying. Almost everyone of your posts has this tone. I can only guess you're hoping to pound into everyone's head how the Alaska codeshare effects us, because the only thing any of us can do about it is convey our dissatisfaction through our Reps & contract survey.
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