Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-11-2011, 08:14 AM
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Agree, T.
My impression is SWA mgt and SWAPA are doing everything they can to intimidate the Airtran pilots into capitulating.
I think there will be plenty of long term bitterness among the Airtran folks and once they mix crews, those cockpits won't be very happy.
My respect for SWA and SWAPA has plummeted.
My impression is SWA mgt and SWAPA are doing everything they can to intimidate the Airtran pilots into capitulating.
I think there will be plenty of long term bitterness among the Airtran folks and once they mix crews, those cockpits won't be very happy.
My respect for SWA and SWAPA has plummeted.
10-11-2011, 08:18 AM
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OK I usually get the CD at work, but it has been a while since I have been to the office. Where on the delnet can I find the quarterly training stuff I have to do. When is that due btw?
10-11-2011, 08:22 AM
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Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I couldn't completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I couldn't completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
You are right though, T!
10-11-2011, 08:31 AM
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I agree that the analysis might be a little shallow, but also don't believe Kelly ever really intended to perform "fleet integration". Those 717's will remain on the separate certificate, and be "LONG GONE" before SOC is ever seen. (Hence the fear mongering and "yes" votes, allowing S.L. 10 to pass MEMRAT.) 
GJ
GJ
Well said. Lots of carnage over there. Its sad.
10-11-2011, 08:31 AM
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- Left side, click Quarterly CQ
- Click on Fall 2011
- Scroll all the way down to "downloads"
- Click the link to courseware for the fall qtr lesson
Due November something or other..
10-11-2011, 08:32 AM
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Click on the quarterly cq radio button on the left side of the Flight Ops page. Click on Fall 2011 link. Scroll to the bottom of the page for the download link.
10-11-2011, 08:34 AM
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Now Buzz,
You know it was hard enough to root for them in the Super Bowl last year. Aaron Rogers is a great guy and all, but as a Bears fan you know......
But, you guys look great this year, too. Looks like the Thanksgiving Packers/Lions game might be something to look forward to for once.
You know it was hard enough to root for them in the Super Bowl last year. Aaron Rogers is a great guy and all, but as a Bears fan you know......
But, you guys look great this year, too. Looks like the Thanksgiving Packers/Lions game might be something to look forward to for once.
10-11-2011, 09:23 AM
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Denny, there is no question that the change to the D&S survivor benefit was a bankruptcy concession. I'm not saying it's "raining", but that it "rained." The deal we have now is not financially better than the previous D&S promise as long as that promise continues to pay. With the benefit of experience I don't want to go back to an unfunded promise to pay, as I've seen that promise broken. IF we could get a survivor annuity or some form of retiree insurance funded by Delta that's in our own name, then I might be interested. But just because the D&S Trust was unfunded in the 90's and currently has money is no guarantee that there will be money there when my survivors need it.
I don't think I'm crying wolf, but ymmv.
I don't think I'm crying wolf, but ymmv.
Is the D&S plan protected by ERSIA? If it is, I would think the company would have a hard time getting rid of it outside of bankruptcy and even inside of bankruptcy if the plan is close to being self funding. I know this would be a hard if not impossible question to answer but how close is the plan to being self funding? I know it all depends on the investment return but I would be curious how it has performed in the last few years and what it's expenses each year have been. Before I make a decision about what I'd like, I'd want to see the actual numbers of potential future survivors receiving benefits that you alluded to in a previous post.
Thanks for the civil discussion.
Denny
10-11-2011, 09:45 AM
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Growing capacity 8% YOY
Growing the fleet by 18% in the next 4 years.
Hiring 25% more pilots in the next 3 years.
Can you name the Delta system carrier?
Back down to Earth: for us to see equivalent growth at Delta mainline, we would be have to be adding 130 jets above current fleet count and hiring 3000 pilots in the next few years.
Cheers
George
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