Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-10-2011, 06:48 PM
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Right now is AirFranceKLM is "reducing capacity" by transferring some AF 747 freighters to Martinair. I'm not sure Martinair is part of the Transatlantic JV. That would mean AirFranceKLM could grow the pax business but stay within the 1.5% of the 50/50 balance by subtracting the transferred cargo from their share of EASK.
10-10-2011, 06:48 PM
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Not necessarily so. We did not cut WB seats on any great magnitude on the last few AE's. The company decided to keep the categories fat staffed, so even if there is a slight yoy increase in the flying you will not see a linear increase in the staffing.
Also, I am not sure that the time frame for compliance in the production balance is public, but as I understand it, the length that it is allows for a range, and then when it deviates outside of this range (a few bias points on either side of 50-50) the corrective window is large enough to take in to account normal seasonal adjustments.
Also, I am not sure that the time frame for compliance in the production balance is public, but as I understand it, the length that it is allows for a range, and then when it deviates outside of this range (a few bias points on either side of 50-50) the corrective window is large enough to take in to account normal seasonal adjustments.
If I read it right the window triples in length before our flying needs to be adjusted up based on lookback. That a pretty long wait...
I wonder how that extension is supposed to be benefitial to current Delta pilots. Seems like the company would want that if someone else were to be added to the Euro side of the JV....
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10-10-2011, 07:00 PM
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Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
10-10-2011, 07:06 PM
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Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I couldn't completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I couldn't completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
10-10-2011, 07:10 PM
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Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could completely care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
Here we are at "The latest and greatest about Delta" and all its about is speculating about hiring for attrition maybe 2 years from now...
I better keep my mouth shut, else I'll get lectured again
"You should be lucky to have a job, look at the situation at American..."
The reality is probably more along the lines of: Delta was a first mover in the big consolidation game and now needs to wait its turn until the other players have executed their moves. In the meantime it will be status-qou while the company grows virtually via our partners, JV and otherwise...
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10-10-2011, 07:12 PM
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All of the above happened in bankruptcy court. Do you expect that to happen again? What is the money in the D&S plan for if not for disability AND survivorship. What is all that money really doing for us now (beyond the disability part)?
I should also add it's funding the first 60 million dollars of our sick leave too!
Denny
I should also add it's funding the first 60 million dollars of our sick leave too!
Denny
You're right, the money is for Disability and Survivorship. Right now I'm told the majority of the funds are paying disability benefits (mostly non-seniority list), but supposedly there's a big wave of survivor benefits that will start being paid. I think most of the funds in the Trust are allocated to fund those future survivor benefits. I can see us hitching our wagon to a D&S survivor benefit just as the Trust gets sucked on hard, potentially leaving our survivors with an empty bag. Again, no thanks. JL's idea is a non-starter with me.
Show me the money in my name, please.
10-10-2011, 07:12 PM
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Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could not care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could not care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
10-10-2011, 07:14 PM
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10-10-2011, 07:17 PM
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Is there a football game on tonight? I can't tear myself away from this 11-2 baseball game. (And I won't.)
10-10-2011, 07:21 PM
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Nice! That little gem must have been written by the same scope lawyers that couldn't think of the RAH separate certificate trick several years after RAH's scope lawyers already thought of it. So we pulldown to fund their A-380 fantasy jobs program while they hide capacity by subcontracting it? We seriously fell for that?
In context this is really not looking so hot especially considering the addition of another euro dance partner...
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George
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