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Old 10-05-2011, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I don't know... just asking... but would we even get to vote on a contract extension? Could the MEC do something like that with an LOA?
Wasn't LOA 19 subject to MEMRAT?
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Wasn't LOA 19 subject to MEMRAT?
Any sort of pay changes have to go before memrat.

Seems the paranoia is worse than normal.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Any sort of pay changes have to go before memrat.

Seems the paranoia is worse than normal.
Thanks. I honestly couldn't remember but I thought that was right. I think what you're seeing is a lack of trust in DALPA. But I'm glad to confirm that a pay change has to go before memrat.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
I agree that we will see a 2 year contract extension with about a 5-10% raise and some contractual improvements.
I may consider 15% for 1 year, but nothing less and there better be improvements elsewhere.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Wouldn't surprise me to see ALPA endorse a proposal like that. But I sure hope the majority of this pilot group wouldn't even consider it!

On another note, this just in on the DALPA Forum: (not posted by any DALPA official)

"Just got off the phone with the President of SWAPA.

I asked him to clarify their pay. He emphatically said the average SWA Captain makes between 220K and 260K. Some work less and make less, a few push 300K. The last year he flew the line he made over 270K working about 4 days a week.

He asked an FO near him what he made on his W2 last year, it was around 180K. He estimated he worked about 16 days a month.

Their 737s hold around 137 passengers.

He said no DALPA leader has called him personally to discuss their contract this go round. He did say the _ guys have spoken to him."


I assume "the _guys" is referring to DPA since that acronym is forbidden on the DALPA Forum.
The word DPA is blocked automatically?
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The word DPA is blocked automatically?
I'm not sure if it's automatic or if the post just gets deleted by a moderator. That's where all the references to "donuts" came from. It's a code word for DPA that doesn't violate the "terms and conditions."
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:06 PM
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In other news:

Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???

TEN
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
In other news:

Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???

TEN

I'm sure we're adding pilots for our network as well. Didn't we just place more additional 70/76 seaters recently! Hard to keep up with all that activity.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
And if that were the case the facts would bear it out as soon as the NDA info became public. The fact that NDA agreements continue must be either a testament to the veracity of the info given, and ALPA continuously vets it's worth, or we have had a long track record of incredibly naive, gullable people at the MEC, both fNWA and DAL
This is exactly what is important for everyone to admit to themselves. You don't get to where we are with sharp non-naive people at the MEC. The most recent glaring example of such is our current scope language that is now so weak, ALPA cannot even defend the very language that they wrote. You can either admit it and try to get better, or continue to beat your chest about ALPA's victories of decades ago.

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Old 10-05-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
Carl,

And what a glorious day it was !

Now, can we do it again ?
Well first you have to have a union willing to ask. Instead, we have a union that communicates to us why snap backs are not good for the company.

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