Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-03-2011, 07:37 PM
  #77281  
No longer cares
 
tsquare's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingViking
Cr@p, I missed the d030 at the end. You're just one of those internet stalkers, not my almighty Captain and we will never do SFO together. I don't really care if you buy the beer. As the almighty Captain would have said it; loser ! The rest of us might have said looser but he IS THE Captain, so loser it is....
You make me so happy! Definitely I will buy you beer. (You have to identify yourself though)
tsquare is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 07:37 PM
  #77282  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Ferd149
So many good one liners involving hungry and tuna......but ACL would just delete them and ban me for a couple of weeks

Needless to say, she is more fun to watch than Anthony Bordain (sp?) and "No Reservations"

I like the way she says "pancetta"

If Chaca meat were the secret ingredient on the Iron Chef...
scambo1 is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 07:43 PM
  #77283  
Da Hudge
 
80ktsClamp's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Default

Originally Posted by Ferd149
So many good one liners involving hungry and tuna......but ACL would just delete them and ban me for a couple of weeks

Needless to say, she is more fun to watch than Anthony Bordain (sp?) and "No Reservations"
Why not me? The Southwest guys seem to think I delete everything! I even have my own fiefdom!

Now if someone would show me where that fiefdom is, I could go back to oppressing the peasants.

80ktsClamp is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 07:52 PM
  #77284  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Why not me? The Southwest guys seem to think I delete everything! I even have my own fiefdom!

Now if someone would show me where that fiefdom is, I could go back to oppressing the peasants.
You've got to be careful with the constitutional peasants.

ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
WOMAN: No one live there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is?
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, [angels sing] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you?
forgot to bid is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 08:04 PM
  #77285  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Ferd149's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
Posts: 3,457
Default

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Why not me? The Southwest guys seem to think I delete everything! I even have my own fiefdom!

Now if someone would show me where that fiefdom is, I could go back to oppressing the peasants.

Good point, sorry My Liege

You know, that guy even looks like me........when I had hair
Ferd149 is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 08:43 PM
  #77286  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by Maddoggin
I heard guys talking about this my last trip as well. Their rumor was actually 25% for a 2 year extension.....
Um. Is that 25% per year?
newKnow is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 11:20 PM
  #77287  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It was a 6% raise for scope trade, right?
Yes, over 5 years. 2/1/1/1/1. Nevermind that our own CEO is saying in company publications to employees that we are in a period of stagflation. DALPA and the company had better understand that whatever comes our way, FULL inflation, compounded yearly, will be backed out of any and all claims of "a raise over the life of" rhetoric.
gloopy is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 11:32 PM
  #77288  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

Originally Posted by Maddoggin
I heard guys talking about this my last trip as well. Their rumor was actually 25% for a 2 year extension. Also heard that contract extensions don't have to be voted on by the pilot group. Anyone know if thats true.
And let me guess, give up 100 seaters but oh, oh, oh, they will have "limits" like "only 88 seats" (100 seater with a first class the way management wants to fly them anyway) and can only do a certain percentage of the "hub to hub" or whatever.

Doesn't one of the regional outsourcing black holes come up for renewal in about 2 years? I think it was one of the smaller ones with SKYW but I'm not sure who its with. Agree to end that and reduce the outsourced "large RJ's" by the same amount. 25% on day 1, then 10% on 1 year after signing (to make up for the 5% we lost over the last year as well as covering the next year) plus 1% more B fund plus COLA to our per diem (retroactive to the last time it was increased) a massive vacation overhaul in our favor and enough line holder and reserve work rule changes to make 2 more years palatable, reigning in the AK code share abuses, future guarantees of DL pilot beneficial JV's if any more are sought, early openers again with accelerated mediation language and guaranteed COLA plus an initial 10-20% at the end of 2 years if we haven't reached an agreement, fix the use it or lose it sick pay system and I would consider such an extension (depending on every single other line of fine print in the entire contract, any one bad line of which could torpedo the entire thing).

That would be a net 37ish% in 366 days with partial scope recapture/strengthening at all 3 levels of our airline plus the necessary improvements required to press on in the interim.

Oh and 33% more underboob. That is a strike item.
gloopy is offline  
Old 10-03-2011, 11:38 PM
  #77289  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It's not an alternate universe ace. It's exactly how things were back when ALPA behaved like a union instead of the communications arm of management.

I personally told one of our managers that we all know negotiations is just sanctioned lying. Why would I need to sign an NDA to hear your lies when I know you'll just tell me without an NDA? At least without your NDA, I can tell my members about your lies. He just laughed, and I smiled back.

NDA's do nothing but separate union leaders from their members. Which is precisely what management wants.

Carl
I've always hated the idea of NDA's. I guess the BOD guy would have to maybe do it, but other than that, forget it.

If ALPA is supposed to have this awesome EF'nA then we don't really need double secret classified nonsense that we can't tell you about but trust me and sign here.

If the EF'nA isn't sufficient, then what makes anyone think the company would be 100% honest with any of us, especially those of us who are sworn not to tell?

I think NDA's are a great way to divide the pilot group into elite leadership that knows more than the rank and file but can't tell them why. When that happens, we all lose.
gloopy is offline  
Old 10-04-2011, 02:54 AM
  #77290  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,539
Default

Originally Posted by gloopy
I've always hated the idea of NDA's. I guess the BOD guy would have to maybe do it, but other than that, forget it.

If ALPA is supposed to have this awesome EF'nA then we don't really need double secret classified nonsense that we can't tell you about but trust me and sign here.

If the EF'nA isn't sufficient, then what makes anyone think the company would be 100% honest with any of us, especially those of us who are sworn not to tell?
Yeah, knowing about things like mergers where we wind up with 5.6% of the company and over 20% increase in direct compensation, or Joint Ventures where we get unprecedented production balance protections compared to the results of those non-NDA signing union guys...

I can see where you think those things are nonsense.

Sheesh....

Last edited by slowplay; 10-04-2011 at 03:34 AM.
slowplay is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices