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10-03-2011, 06:28 PM

#77261

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Originally Posted by tsquared030

With the right work rule improvements, I could agree with that statement.

I'm interested in the effect on total pay, not just pay rates.

Curious, what % increase would you want to see it and how would you make say a 5% increase equal that percentage?

10-03-2011, 06:34 PM

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FlyingViking

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Originally Posted by tsquared030

[......DPA is NOT the answer, particularly months before Section 6 opens.

T

OK, after the next trip to SFO (since we are all domesticated now) with me you will change that statement...

10-03-2011, 06:35 PM

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TenYearsGone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tsquared030

With the right work rule improvements, I could agree with that statement.

I'm interested in the effect on total pay, not just pay rates.

I dont know what work rules can be improved to satisfy my appetite for a 72% PAYRAISE.

Maybe 60% FAE for the last 4 years of service for pension. or a $3 MILLION DOLLAR pension to take with us when we retire.

I sure know I do not want to fly more than 70-80 hours (MAX!) a month. I know friends who make more than me flying 95 hour months with less hourly rate. That is not what I want or aim for. THis is HELL!!!!

Ten

10-03-2011, 06:38 PM

#77264

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire

So in your alternate universe there would be no non-disclosure agreements with the company and DPA?

It's not an alternate universe ace. It's exactly how things were back when ALPA behaved like a union instead of the communications arm of management.

I personally told one of our managers that we all know negotiations is just sanctioned lying. Why would I need to sign an NDA to hear your lies when I know you'll just tell me without an NDA? At least without your NDA, I can tell my members about your lies. He just laughed, and I smiled back.

NDA's do nothing but separate union leaders from their members. Which is precisely what management wants.

Carl

10-03-2011, 06:40 PM

#77265

80ktsClamp

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Contract extensions?? various %'s thrown about... and OMG they don't have to be voted on!!!!! Come on guys, really?

10-03-2011, 06:43 PM

#77266

FlyingViking

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tsquared030

.......DPA is NOT the answer, particularly months before Section 6 opens.

T

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingViking

OK, after the next trip to SFO (since we are all domesticated now) with me you will change that statement...

Cr@p, I missed the d030 at the end. You're just one of those internet stalkers, not my almighty Captain and we will never do SFO together. I don't really care if you buy the beer. As the almighty Captain would have said it; loser ! The rest of us might have said looser but he IS THE Captain, so loser it is....

10-03-2011, 06:44 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquared030

As opposed to DPA having us spinning our wheels for a couple of years while they file for a vote, wait for vote, appeal vote, etc. All the while, the NMB and Mgt will say, let us know when you have that figured out and we'll let you start to negotiate again.

Of course an ALPA apologist such as yourself would only post the most accurate of possible scenarios...right?