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Old 10-02-2011, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Model Citezen
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I do not think Drafting Committees use recorded votes. Only the MEC does that and ONLY IF someone (status rep) calls for it.

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If you look at the resolution link on the MEC comm committee page it lists the vote tally in drafting committee but not names. There are reps from each LEC in each committee so your reps should be able to tell you who voted how.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:08 AM
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Rogue24,

Who wrote that piece?

That's a very insightful article.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Rogue24,

Who wrote that piece?

That's a very insightful article.
It was written by the DTW Secretary/Treasurer Drew Massey. It was not only insightful, but provided a very factual set of examples showing how broken our union structure is. If this doesn't show you that we are NOT a "bottom-up" organization...nothing will.

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Old 10-02-2011, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Ever wait two minutes, then let the trim back out?

When your Captain comes back, ask him "Hey, what's with the wet knees?!?"




From the date on Slowplay's JC letter, it looks like I started a year later.

Boomer, don’t let this guy posting this junk on here discourage you. I have nothing but positive experience talking to the Delta guys and gals while jump seating or hanging around the airport and I do work for Comair. Companies will hire you for who you are! Good luck and I hope all of us will find a better place to go.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
No scope relief is a start but scope recapture is mandatory.

I agree; I would like to get out of my crappy regional job in this lifetime
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It was written by the DTW Secretary/Treasurer Drew Massey. It was not only insightful, but provided a very factual set of examples showing how broken our union structure is. If this doesn't show you that we are NOT a "bottom-up" organization...nothing will.

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Carl, it is a very insightful piece from S/T Massey but as he states ALPA is still the best way to go. Do not omit that. What he is getting at is that there are issues within the current structure that need fixing.

IMO, the only way that we will get the contract we want is for line pilot to start holding their reps accountable and recall them if they are not voting a certain way on resolutions or elections etc.

Most pilots do not seem to want to engage and most pilot expect someone else to carry the water. Until the majority of us realize that the only way you fix a mess is to get involved and demand change, the only thing that will change is the name on the door plaque.

I am a fan of you guys in DTW. They generally are very frank and open in their communication.

I also think that Tom's piece is a good read too. If anyone wants to read their news letter in full, they will need to get it from a C20 pilot since the last newsletter that was uploaded to the C20 website is from Oct 1,2010, a year ago.

This update also paid a very nice tribute to Bryan. Very impressive gentlemen.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Example du Jour

The previous two A330-200 CROTs were staffed without any solicitation sent out to the pilot group at large. The current MEC Chairman was a member of the final A330-200 CROT.

Did you know there is currently an A330-300 CROT? Do you know who is on that commitee so you can send your input? Did you see anything from DALPA asking if you were interested in serving or what the qualifications were?

Note: CROT is covered in the PWA and as such is administered by the MEC Chairman on the DALPA side.

I am aware, but that is because I read the DALPA site. I am of the opinion that all of this info needs to be pushed to each and every pilot with a e-mail address on a bi-monthly basis at a min. The reason of not wanting to overload pilots is garbage. If a pilot does not want to read it, they can hit delete. Most would be more interested if they had the data sent to them. A lot of pilots I talk to find the DALPA site, and ALPA site difficult to navigate and as a result do not feel like digging for information.

I would like to see a Committee Report pushed to everyone with an active e-mail address.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Well, that resolution doesn't say much of anything. The MEC agrees to discuss it? Really? The MEC resolution should have read: "The Delta MEC agrees that this resolution SHALL be the directive to the negotiating committee and SHALL constitute the minimum acceptable product of Section 1 to bring forth to the members for ratification."

But that's not what they said. Not even close. Like was said earlier, who was it on the MEC that voted NO to even discuss this at the MEC level? Whoever that was should be recalled immediately. Period.

Carl

I agree. I say we lynch 'em!!! I'll get the rope!
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:23 AM
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Might want to take action on this one!!!!

Call to Action: No New Taxes on Our Negotiated Benefits
September 27, 2011 – The U.S. Congress must pass a deficit reduction bill by January 2012 or there will be mandatory reductions in spending across the board. Several proposals are under consideration, one of which would raise income taxes or reduce tax preferences that exist today on employer-sponsored health care and defined contribution 401(k) retirement plans. Tell your member of Congress and your U.S. senators that you do not want to pay tax on your employer-provided health benefits. The “Super Committee” must act by November 23, 2011, so take action now!
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
I agree. I say we lynch 'em!!! I'll get the rope!

Does that mean that you are going to go to a LEC meeting and hold your reps accountable, and if necessary recall them?
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