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Very bottom, center console. Small knob on far right is door unlock. BIG DIAL to the left is rudder trim control. One swift turn on that thing and you're going to get what they got!
Very bottom, center console. Small knob on far right is door unlock. BIG DIAL to the left is rudder trim control. One swift turn on that thing and you're going to get what they got!
I'll bet that's exactly what happened. He grabbed the rudder trim, gave it a turn and held it there thinking he was holding the unlock. The autopilot held wings level as long as it could then ... SNAP!
I have an older sports car as a weekend toy. It cost me not much more than the Vette in question, and I don't think it will ever be worth less than I paid for it. I drive it 2 or 3,000 miles per year; an oil change in autumn is almost all the maintenance it needs. My insurance bill is actually lower with the extra car on the policy.
For what it costs me, it's worth that amount just for the enjoyment I get from seeing it in the garage. The ability to drive it is a bonus.
For what it costs me, it's worth that amount just for the enjoyment I get from seeing it in the garage. The ability to drive it is a bonus.
Bloomberg News
All Nippon Airways Co. airplanes at Haneda Airport in Tokyo.
In a chilling reminder of how a simple human error can override the highest of high technology, an investigation has shown that All Nippon Airways Co. narrowly escaped a catastrophe earlier this month when its plane almost flipped over after a co-pilot hit the wrong button while trying to open the cockpit door for the plane’s captain, returning from the restroom.
The revelation came at an awkward time for the Japanese carrier, just hours after the first of the new-generation Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner jets on which it has built its future strategy finally landed in Tokyo on Wednesday, more than three years behind schedule.
The celebratory mood was quickly over as Shin Nagase, a senior executive vice president at ANA, apologized and bowed deeply in front of TV cameras at a news conference to apologize for the trouble caused by the incident, which took place Sept. 6.
According to the Japan Transport Safety Board, two flight attendants were slightly hurt when the Boeing 737-700, with 117 people aboard, tipped more than 130 degrees to the left at one point and dived about 1,900 meters in 30 seconds during a flight from Naha on the southern island of Okinawa to Tokyo. Two flight attendants were slightly injured and six passengers became airsick or reported neck pains.
ANA said a 38-year-old co-pilot likely hit the rudder trim controls by mistake instead of pushing the door unlock button to let the captain in after he stepped out of the cockpit to go to the restroom.
Computer graphic images compiled by the safety board showed the plane turning almost upside down, but many passengers on board apparently did not realize the gravity of the situation, since it was already dark outside when the incident occurred at around 10:50 pm.
Investigators said the co-pilot was quite experienced, with more than 35,000 total hours of flight time. Nonetheless,*according to investigators, the slip-up*cause a roll and descent so violent that the jet exceeded certain maximum allowable speeds and also was subjected to stresses beyond its acceleration limits.
The safety board will continue the investigation, while a company spokeswoman said ANA will take preventative measures to make sure that pilots do a double-check on where the controls are located as they leave and return to the cockpit. The company said it will also try to improve its reporting lines, admitting that officials were not aware of the incident until the following day.
All Nippon Airways Co. airplanes at Haneda Airport in Tokyo.
In a chilling reminder of how a simple human error can override the highest of high technology, an investigation has shown that All Nippon Airways Co. narrowly escaped a catastrophe earlier this month when its plane almost flipped over after a co-pilot hit the wrong button while trying to open the cockpit door for the plane’s captain, returning from the restroom.
The revelation came at an awkward time for the Japanese carrier, just hours after the first of the new-generation Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner jets on which it has built its future strategy finally landed in Tokyo on Wednesday, more than three years behind schedule.
The celebratory mood was quickly over as Shin Nagase, a senior executive vice president at ANA, apologized and bowed deeply in front of TV cameras at a news conference to apologize for the trouble caused by the incident, which took place Sept. 6.
According to the Japan Transport Safety Board, two flight attendants were slightly hurt when the Boeing 737-700, with 117 people aboard, tipped more than 130 degrees to the left at one point and dived about 1,900 meters in 30 seconds during a flight from Naha on the southern island of Okinawa to Tokyo. Two flight attendants were slightly injured and six passengers became airsick or reported neck pains.
ANA said a 38-year-old co-pilot likely hit the rudder trim controls by mistake instead of pushing the door unlock button to let the captain in after he stepped out of the cockpit to go to the restroom.
Computer graphic images compiled by the safety board showed the plane turning almost upside down, but many passengers on board apparently did not realize the gravity of the situation, since it was already dark outside when the incident occurred at around 10:50 pm.
Investigators said the co-pilot was quite experienced, with more than 35,000 total hours of flight time. Nonetheless,*according to investigators, the slip-up*cause a roll and descent so violent that the jet exceeded certain maximum allowable speeds and also was subjected to stresses beyond its acceleration limits.
The safety board will continue the investigation, while a company spokeswoman said ANA will take preventative measures to make sure that pilots do a double-check on where the controls are located as they leave and return to the cockpit. The company said it will also try to improve its reporting lines, admitting that officials were not aware of the incident until the following day.
PS. APC reunion this morning with Scoop and buzzpat in MCO. As a matter of fact, what's wrong with this picture? Six Delta pilots hanging out outside Starbucks in the MCO terminal at 0630.....all LAX guys. C'mon east coast bases, get out of bed!! That's frikking early for us!
Last edited by buzzpat; 09-30-2011 at 09:05 AM.
Scambo,
$11k seems way cheap to me, but it also depends on several factors:
Originality is key. You said it's not the original engine, but is it the original color? Is it a desirable color? Monza Red-yes. Caramel Bronze-less so.
The word "restoration" means different things to different people. To some it's a thorough detail, and to others it's a full body-off rebuilding of the vehicle with tremendous attention to detail.
There were different options for the car and some while "rare" aren't really desirable and others are very sought after.
There's a publication called The Corvette Black Book. I highly recommend it as it has lots of information on available options and production numbers, etc.
My impression is it's a great time to buy a muscle car. Good Luck!
$11k seems way cheap to me, but it also depends on several factors:
Originality is key. You said it's not the original engine, but is it the original color? Is it a desirable color? Monza Red-yes. Caramel Bronze-less so.
The word "restoration" means different things to different people. To some it's a thorough detail, and to others it's a full body-off rebuilding of the vehicle with tremendous attention to detail.
There were different options for the car and some while "rare" aren't really desirable and others are very sought after.
There's a publication called The Corvette Black Book. I highly recommend it as it has lots of information on available options and production numbers, etc.
My impression is it's a great time to buy a muscle car. Good Luck!
Awesome info. I am a car guy from way back, but muscle cars can be hotrodded and still have value. However, vettes are like gto's documentation, options and originality are key to determining value.
The restoration was frame off - car has new body mounts, but wasnt done with meticulous care, it was a repair - make pretty, restoration to build a driver, not a showcar.
His asking price is 13.5k, my price where I dont think I'll get hurt is 11k.
Last edited by scambo1; 09-30-2011 at 09:45 AM.
Quick question. On Delta Net we used to have a sparkfly option for deals at Hilton and other hotel chains. also had rental cars, cruises, etc. can not find it. Only a employees "perks" section with not much in it.
Anyone have any gouge on where it is /went / or how to access it??
Thanks.
Anyone have any gouge on where it is /went / or how to access it??
Thanks.
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I flew with a former CVG 73N A, & he told me the -700(I think, or maybe a later model) has a problem with the 1st class lav lid staying up. He said whenever he went to hit the head he'd crank in some left rudder trim to keep the lid up.
Quick question. On Delta Net we used to have a sparkfly option for deals at Hilton and other hotel chains. also had rental cars, cruises, etc. can not find it. Only a employees "perks" section with not much in it.
Anyone have any gouge on where it is /went / or how to access it??
Thanks.
Anyone have any gouge on where it is /went / or how to access it??
Thanks.
Ha! Actually, the -700 and the new -800s lids stay up great. Its the older model -800s that you either have to put some trim in or do the kubuki dance with your knee to keep up. Its a hoot when you're in moderate chop.
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