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Old 09-29-2011, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
FMLA was never intended to be a way to get paid. It is to allow you 12 weeks unpaid leave in a rolling 12 month cycle without the risk of losing you job.
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All part of America going soft.
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I guess this is suggesting that being home for the birth of a child (only happens a few times in a lifetime) is not a worthy endeavor, and that we should put the mission first?

Work to live man, not the other way around. I was home (mostly unpaid) when both of my kids arrived and it's something I'd do again a hundred times. You can do an extra 4 day here and there and be back to where you were moneywise. Kinda hard to get back the experience of being there when your kid arrives though.
You guessed wrong. Being there for the birth? A definite can't miss event of a lifetime. But going KaliFORN-I-A with the month or more off so daddy can be home is a bit too much IMO; I say after a week do your family duty by getting to work and putting food on the table. What's next, gubment mandated six week holiday's so we can go to the south of France?
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I did the same thing for the 320... Let's just say I did everything in my power to ensure a nice long run time.


BTW- the new 330 syllabus, you walk in on day 1 and take the SV. ***? The new 320 syllabus is similar but with a day or 2 of "ground." It is not what us Delta South guys are used to with the CD and then a week of ground... and even moreso for the North guys. All the fleets are going to this E-qual stuff that will change over to a similar footprint. Cutting a bit too deep... I think the failures on the SV are going to go way up.
I agree. I'm one of those slow guys who needs to ask a question or two in class. Better there than the oral

Anyway, why I agreed to do the gig up in ATL. If I'm going to be stuck with the new way, at least I get a no jeopardy shot at the SV in case I need to "see" it again
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I agree. I'm one of those slow guys who needs to ask a question or two in class. Better there than the oral

Anyway, why I agreed to do the gig up in ATL. If I'm going to be stuck with the new way, at least I get a no jeopardy shot at the SV in case I need to "see" it again
The thumb drive will take you through the distance learning and has a practice SV.

I will tell you right now you will not be ready for it via the practice only. I'm a freaking sponge when it comes to this stuff, and I wouldn't have passed the SV... At least not without a lot of extra unpaid time, which I would not be willing to put in.

Now that I know about the new format, I will be writing ALPA tomorrow. Unbelievable.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
True, but it was Delta's marketing scam.

Does anyone know if the Delta pilots in the advertisements were real Delta pilots?

I had a good time there and liked the people, but at the end of the day I felt like the guy who signed up for a four year stint in the Army because his Army recruiter told him "Sure we can send you to SEAL school, if that's what you want."
After reading my previous posts, I might have come off a little harsh. I'm sorry. Good luck with your career. I hope things work out for you long term.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
The HPRM was updated in August 2010 to reflect the changes in law. Oh, the PWA and Delta policy provided for Family Leave in accordance with the 1993 law even though it technically didn't cover pilots and flight attendants.
Like the kid in orthopedic shoes, I stand corrected!

It is good that Delta has updated the HPRM and is now in compliance with the law. For the first 8 months of 2010, that was not the case.

Delta thought they were in compliance with a law they never had to comply with. When Delta did have to comply, they assumed they were doing it correctly when in fact they were not. (the rub was, the inflexible requirement for 30 days notice).

Emergency surgery could not, and can not, be planned 30 days in advance. The law even gave the illustration of a pregnancy and the notice requirements have been relaxed by subsequent legal decisions.

The addition of, "when feasible" to the HPRM makes the difference.

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:02 PM
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I'm tweaking my 750 characters on the Scope free text box. Anything I'm missing that's more important? See below:

SCOPE is my #1 priority for this contract. I will vote NO regardless of payraises or other provisions unless we significantly tighten our SCOPE. Both top and bottom end SCOPE must be improved. Specifically:
1. Future JV's must be approved by the Delta MEC. Must maintain a minimum of a 50% balance in favor of Delta Pilots.
2. No new DCI contracts. Sunset existing agreements at the end of their terms. Bring all DCI flying in, even if at current DCI rates. We can work on payrates later - no exceptions
3. In interim, limit allowed turboprops to <50 seats
4. Hard cap of ALV period. (No Swap, WS, GS, etc) if pilots on furlough
5. Fix Republic-type allowance NOW! Before Trans-States et al become our next outsourcing problem
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
You guessed wrong. Being there for the birth? A definite can't miss event of a lifetime. But going KaliFORN-I-A with the month or more off so daddy can be home is a bit too much IMO; I say after a week do your family duty by getting to work and putting food on the table. What's next, gubment mandated six week holiday's so we can go to the south of France?
FMLA would be nice if it was paid.

Then you consider that you can take FMLA for 12 weeks every year and suddenly that means that everyone will be taking three paid months off whenever they want.

"Sorry boss, I know it's a week before Halloween, but my doctor SIGNED this paperwork that says I need to care for my elderly parents. Send my paychecks to my parent's house in Tampa. I'll see you in February."

"I know I haven't worked a Christmas in 17 years. It's not my fault, my parents just seem to have more trouble when it's cold... in Tampa..."

But then you consider that they would have to hire 33% more pilots, and it starts to look like a good idea again.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:12 PM
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There is no way anything illegal could happen on that bus. I mean really, they have ping pong.

Are we sure that's even at a Lions game? Cause it looks like a Cub Scout Jamboree with the tent and tiki lights. The skulls even lend an air of Capt Jack Sparrow, an all-round great guy.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Hockey,

I was furloughed from DAL when JC penned the "letter." At the same time ASA was hiring DAL guys - without requiring resignation. I say we should learn from our mistakes and also never forget that the Comair Pilot group tried to leverage the misfortunes of the junior DAL Pilots into political clout. I do however, make a distinction between Pilot groups and individual Pilots. Judging by his posts I think Boomer is the kind of guy we would like to have around here.

Even though I was very unhappy with the Comair Pilot groups antics and have no love for the Comair Pilots as a group- I will continue to judge individuals individually. Sounds like Boomer was not even on board when all this went down.

Boomer - Hang in there. Try to use your former military contacts to get your foot in the door.

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People are missing an unusual wrinkle of the ASA position on concurrent seniority. ... I can not recall the date, but there was a SLOA which allowed Delta bid restricted Second Officers who did not meet Delta's minimum standards to come to ASA, while holding Delta seniority to train and get experience so that they could upgrade to a flying seat at Delta mainline. There were a small handful of Delta instructors who came to ASA, then went back as mainline pilots. I do not know if any of these used the Second Officer SLOA, or not (or if anyone used it). So it was not exactly a happy accident ... DALPA had a negotiated agreement which preceded the furloughs.

Comair did not have that history. Gloopy is right that the Delta MEC could have negotiated directly with Delta to force the issue on Delta's subsidiaries. One can only assume the reasons why this did not happen.

Regardless of how it came to pass, we were happy to see Delta pilots at ASA. They are excellent pilots and gentlemen who never complained, although they had plenty of justification.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
two questions for the brethren:

Car guy question: I have been offered a non number matching, 2000 miles since restoration, 1970 corvette roadster 4spd. Nice looking, riding and driving car. Anyone got any idea what this car is worth in today's economy, I'm thinking $11k and I cant be hurt.

Investor question: AGQ - What the eff? Is it a buy or is it going lower?
$11k is cheap, depending on the restoration. If you can get it that cheap then sweet! Nice car choice ;-)
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