Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-23-2011, 11:52 AM
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I used to deliver pizza in NE Scottsdale. I saw this woman's twin(s) while on a delivery. Needless to say, I drove off the road, up the sidewalk and just about hit a cactus. I didn't learn my lesson though. A few weeks later I saw a similar woman jogging. This time I drove in a ditch. Luckily pulled out of the ditch just before the next driveway!!
09-23-2011, 11:57 AM
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. I think balsamic and aolive oil go much better with bufalo and some fresh tomato(e?) slices though.. maybe a little basil?
09-23-2011, 12:05 PM
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This request will appear in thousands of surveys. When no such contract demand shows up in the opener, it will show everyone that DALPA could not put this in the opener because it couldn't withstand the process of consulting with our regional competitors. And it couldn't withstand the role ALPA's president plays in scrubbing our scope language.
This is of course only the case for those of us crippled by having an association with ALPA.
Carl
This is of course only the case for those of us crippled by having an association with ALPA.
Carl
If the DPA is worried about ALPA's "conflict" then they should have put the percentage into the territory where it would actually effect ALPA members. The Skywest pilots alone do 20% and ALPA does not represent them.
IMHO - pretty darn arrogant to be telling pilots how to respond on THEIR survey! But if you are going to tell them how to respond, at least make it a relevant figure. I like 1
%, at least for starters.
09-23-2011, 12:19 PM
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Just logged on to start my contract survey, and one of my secret logon words that I had to re-type to get into the survey was "knewno." how weird is that?
09-23-2011, 12:22 PM
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How about... All flying to be done by Delta pilots except those joint venture and codeshare agreements that were submitted to the pilot group at large and individually approved by a majority vote. Initial and renewal of these contracts require pilot group approval.
All contracts approved prior to the amendable date must be approved by pilot vote.
Hence, if these contracts are good for us... Prove it.
All contracts approved prior to the amendable date must be approved by pilot vote.
Hence, if these contracts are good for us... Prove it.
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09-23-2011, 12:22 PM
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09-23-2011, 12:27 PM
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How about... All flying to be done by Delta pilots except those joint venture and codeshare agreements that were submitted to the pilot group at large and individually approved by a majority vote. All contracts approved prior to the amendable date must be approved by pilot vote.
09-23-2011, 12:37 PM
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09-23-2011, 01:16 PM
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how about... All flying to be done by delta pilots except those joint venture and codeshare agreements that were submitted to the pilot group at large and individually approved by a majority vote. Initial and renewal of these contracts require pilot group approval.
All contracts approved prior to the amendable date must be approved by pilot vote.
Hence, if these contracts are good for us... Prove it.
All contracts approved prior to the amendable date must be approved by pilot vote.
Hence, if these contracts are good for us... Prove it.
09-23-2011, 01:18 PM
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Carl, or could it be that the majority of pilots don't take orders from a minority of wrongheaded zealots making trying to make a irrelevant point?
If the DPA is worried about ALPA's "conflict" then they should have put the percentage into the territory where it would actually effect ALPA members. The Skywest pilots alone do 20% and ALPA does not represent them.
IMHO - pretty darn arrogant to be telling pilots how to respond on THEIR survey! But if you are going to tell them how to respond, at least make it a relevant figure. I like 1%, at least for starters.
If the DPA is worried about ALPA's "conflict" then they should have put the percentage into the territory where it would actually effect ALPA members. The Skywest pilots alone do 20% and ALPA does not represent them.
IMHO - pretty darn arrogant to be telling pilots how to respond on THEIR survey! But if you are going to tell them how to respond, at least make it a relevant figure. I like 1
%, at least for starters.Bar;
It is my experience, and YMMV, that a fairly sizeable chunk of the pilots I work with are somewhat disengaged. They dont know who did what to whom or any details of our outsourcing, codesharing, jv, etc.
Now with that, I will caveat that an equally sizeable chunk are extremely plugged in and aware. Some of them to a point that is downright amazing.
With group 2, I dont have any concern or issue with what opinion they put in their survey...It is an educated one and even if they are in disagreement with me, I dont care because they are thoughtful enough on their topics.
With group 1, if they breeze through the union materials, they receive what I consider to be a sugar coated display of the world around them. With the ones that dont even breeze through the materials, I am frustrated.
I dont know what the fix is for the above situation, but is it really wrong to be frustrated with group 1? Is it arrogant to be frustrated? Are people who try to stay on top of what is going on, but who are frustrated with ALPA really zealots?
Does namecalling prove any point regardless of which side of the aisle it comes from.
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