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Old 09-19-2011, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Good question -I suppose the number would be constantly changing in response to changing market/labor conditions. But the point, which by the way, your above post also points out, is that DAL will have to improve compensation as demand for Pilots heats up if DAL wants to be the airline of choice for pilots.

I eagerly await the "Great Pilot shortage" that I have been hearing about for the last 30 years. I do believe that there may be a pilot shortage in the future - but not at the majors. The connection carriers are now too big and have too many fully qualified pilots for DAL ever to be short on applicants. We may very well not be guys and gals first choice but we will always have plenty of applicants. Any future Pilot shortage will fall disproportionately on connection carriers - especially ther FO position.

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Not to rehash this separate topic but I say this in jest, they'll find an alternative means to deal with the pilot shortage problem - Embraer reveals vision for single-pilot airliners

[WARNING- do not restart the UAV in NAS conversation here, its over on the mil section]
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I always knew it! FTB...a real man of genius.

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Genius will be when I quit your airline and start Spacklair Connection. That way I'll make a fortune. And yes, we're going to bring back the Convair 440... and jeeps.







Oh did someone say, nobody wants to fly props much less piston props?? Remember, this is spacklair, our motto: "Fly Spacklair Props or **** you."
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
To chime in on the other discussion... I've seriously thought about leaving DAL to go to SWA, AMR or FDX but neither has called so it made my decision easy.
I would agree with SWA or FDX, but not AMR. In my view, you have to look at only one thing: Does your company actually want to run and operate an airline, or don't they? It's really that simple. SWA and FDX have a long history of management teams that actually want to run and grow their operation. DAL now has a long history of wanting to shrink its operation through outsourcing and becoming a ticket brokerage holding company. In the case of SWA or FDX, you would only have to hope that this long history continues. In the case of DAL, you will have to hope that we change to that culture some day. My opinion is that the hope DAL will change is far too big a gamble.

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I do however keep my resume up to date... which is something (I'm sure) none of our Captains ever did. It's a different world and DAL isn't the top anymore.
This captain does. This captain has 10 years left and I've had two interviews this year. A number of the 744 captains that are leaving via this latest buyout are leaving well before age 60 for other jobs.

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We've got a lot to fix and hopefully we make HUGE gains with this next contract. I'd hate to go back to my engineering job.
Yes we do, but our "union" is far too comfortable with management. Getting HUGE gains in this contract will require an EXTREME battle by DAL pilots against our own union first, then management. I'm not sure a majority of us are up for that kind of fight.

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Old 09-19-2011, 05:45 PM
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Hey quick question if anyone knows, anti-ice or de-ice on the Convairs, what did they use? I don't see boots and wiki doesn't have a whole lot of info. I'm assuming heated leading edges, but even on the pistons?
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I would agree with SWA or FDX, but not AMR. In my view, you have to look at only one thing: Does your company actually want to run and operate an airline, or don't they? It's really that simple. SWA and FDX have a long history of management teams that actually want to run and grow their operation. DAL now has a long history of wanting to shrink its operation through outsourcing and becoming a ticket brokerage holding company. In the case of SWA or FDX, you would only have to hope that this long history continues. In the case of DAL, you will have to hope that we change to that culture some day. My opinion is that the hope DAL will change is far too big a gamble.



This captain does. This captain has 10 years left and I've had two interviews this year. A number of the 744 captains that are leaving via this latest buyout are leaving well before age 60 for other jobs.



Yes we do, but our "union" is far too comfortable with management. Getting HUGE gains in this contract will require an EXTREME battle by DAL pilots against our own union first, then management. I'm not sure a majority of us are up for that kind of fight.

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Intriguing. Never thought of that as a reason to leave.
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:55 PM
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Excellent! I was a minute into it before I noticed the car kept changing.
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What a catch.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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What a catch.
That was UNBELIEVABLE.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler



This captain does. This captain has 10 years left and I've had two interviews this year. A number of the 744 captains that are leaving via this latest buyout are leaving well before age 60 for other jobs.
I will agree with you on this. I too am looking to diversify. I am in the middle of "due diligence" on two prospective SB's. The reality is that one needs to make their bread and butter doing something else besides flying airplanes. One can hope that this point changes in this next contract. We all wish it would, but many have been waiting for around a decade for that to happen. I for one am at least looking at something I know I can make the income I need to give my family the life we want.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I will agree with you on this. I too am looking to diversify. I am in the middle of "due diligence" on two prospective SB's. The reality is that one needs to make their bread and butter doing something else besides flying airplanes. One can hope that this point changes in this next contract. We all wish it would, but many have been waiting for around a decade for that to happen. I for one am at least looking at something I know I can make the income I need to give my family the life we want.
If I was as young as you, I would leave for either SWA or FDX as soon as I could. They make a lot more money than you think, and they have a great deal of time off. Enough time off for you to run a good SB as well.

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