CVG767A

Yeah, it sure was tough finding qualified applicant last time we hired...


GMAFB!

forgot to bid

whew. thanks CVG, I was starting to feel down.

But I'll tell you the truth, I know young Delta pilots considering AMR. They're mostly Texans and want back into DFW and they're looking at the retirement numbers and comparing it to ours and evidently it is madly in favor in AMR. Not sure, never ran the numbers. But as HOckey pointed out a while ago and I'm not different when you look at the projected retirements many of us bottom feeders won't move more than a 1,000 numbers in almost the first decade. I think AMR will be faster and people are looking at it seriously because it's not like airlines grow anymore, they're staying the same size and retirements are the only means of movement.

FedEx is also a prized position because what we've learned over the past decade is there is money in cargo and its consistent. How many $25 envelops can you put in a 757 vs $250 passengers for a transcon.

scambo1

Your head is in the sand. This is a far cry from the place you got hired at. People will still apply and take the job, yes, but if everyone is hiring, DAL won't attract the cream like it used to. Sad.

Scoop

CVG,

Yes, there are still plenty of qualified people in the "pipeline" for a job at any major - but this will rapidly change. Age 65 pretty much put everything on hold for 5 years.

As far as qualified applicants - look around, pretty much 50-250 people show up for every job opening advertised at job fairs. This is a pretty low standard to use as a yardstick.

OBTW - I personally know 5 people, 3 are close friends, who permanently left DAL, all hired between Feb 2000 and January 2001, was that normal when you were hired?

In case anyone is curious, 3 are flying corporate, 1 FDX, and 1 Jet BLue. In the spirit of fair disclosure 1 also have another friend who left FDX to come back to DAL.

Scoop

forgot to bid

There is so much that goes into the hiring decision, a lot of it to me seems to be bases, pay and movement. I'd love to have been hired at an airline with bases in DEN, IAD, ORD, LAX, SFO, NYC, but I sure as heck didn't want to be hired at United these days. But when I was growing up it was all DAL, AMR and UAL.

FedEx is alluring because you can work that to live anywhere you want and do great.

What we need to remember is we as pilots, in the eyes of management, suck. We cost too much, the quality of the product we offer isn't that great as a pilot group and evidently not as a team. Otherwise why try to replace us so much?

To be honest, the airline I wanted, was Spacklair.

Desperado

Tomorrow. It's always the 20th.


Are you absolutely certain about this?

It seems to me that last Saturday, tomorrow was the 18th.

iaflyer

Well - I know where we can find some DC-9s, I think we can round up some qualified pilots for it. And I think I saw a B747-400 that Carl can fly. What more do we need?

The 747 will be our international feed!

TenYearsGone

I know one as well. Also a SWA guy too.

TEN

forgot to bid

I say we dump the 744 for the 742s!!! And domestic in dc10s.

We'll have a inflight recruiting department consisting of pilots. Nobody can apply, they must be invited to apply.

Our recruiting department will consist of questions pertaining to scope history, games of who buys the beer, swa trash talk, which urinal do you take, identify the cheerleading outfit, movie lines from comedies, CFB and NFL trash talk, indentify airplane, best posts of apcf and what would you do with a million dollars other than 2 women.

For the cog test, angry birds, beer pong and see how well you can audible out of a running play and into a passing play in the redzone on NCAA 2012 or Madden.

CVG767A

When everyone is hiring again-- and I believe that they must at some point-- Delta, like all the others, will be forced to provide a compensation package good enough to attract qualified applicants.