johnso29

I didn't even get to enjoy the air conditioning of the A320. It's back to the DC9 in June, so I'll be right there with ya New.

I'm looking forward to the DC9 weight loss program. I figure I'll lose at least 5 lbs from all the sweating, and another 5 lbs from all that twisting of those knobs/dials and moving thrust levers.

newKnow

Yes. The sauna is good for a loss of at least 5 pounds. Being too tired to eat is good for another 5.

Justdoinmyjob

I thought sauna was a product of all those good hardy nothern stock, don't ya know. None of it rubbed off on you?

newKnow

Yoo betcha id did.

johnso29

Great! I'm up to at least 10 lbs, maybe 15 lbs!

alfaromeo

Let's be clear Carl, the only reason any of us got a penny out of this is because it was Lee's idea. If you don't believe me, then go back and read the transcript of Dave Stevens arbitration testimony and he will tell you so. The negotiators negotiated the deal, but the plan was his. This had never been done before in the history of airline mergers ever. You can thank him at your leisure.

Lee has never been the subject of a recall ever in his tenure as MEC Chairman. Your facts are dead wrong.

You continue your tyrant lecture, but again, no facts, no evidence just your ranting. Can't you even come up with ONE NAME? I mean everyone is getting this treatment, and you can't find one guy who will fess up.

Thanks for the personal attack. I do care about more junior pilots, I still have many years to go so I can hardly characterize myself as I've got mine. I do care about junior pilot, I just want them to get upset at the right things. Everyone is chasing their shadow on this subject and it is just a little funny. How can it be okay for Midwest to fly MD-80's but not E-190's? Answer that question with some relevance and I will join your crusade. Right now, I see a bunch of Don Quixote's tilting at windmills.

alfaromeo

I guess. You know we code share with Alaska that has 737-700, 800, and 900 aircraft. Those are much bigger than an E-190. Having some other company code share on aircraft and allowing that code on your own airline are two different things. Like I said, before the merger we did code sharing with 403 seat aircraft. By the way, we don't allow DL code on Midwest flights.

newKnow

alfa,

I admit that I am coming in on the tail end of the argument, but I think the aim is to be able to see things coming and cut them off at the pass. If I'm understanding the situation correctly, the Midwest pilot group has been effectively pushed out and the work has been farmed out to the commuters. If Midwest Express is able to totaly demolish their mainline airline pilot group and then allow their connection carrier to take over their routes with bigger aircraft, we should all be worried, because United, CAL, AMR, and DAL won't be too far behind.

Personally, I think we should also be worried about what UAL is planning on doing with Air Lingus as well. But, the key is that just because the fire is in your neighbors backyard, doesn't mean you shouldn't call 911 and grab a bucket of water.

New K Now

(If that's not what the point of the argument is, forgive me.)

RockyBoy

The difference here is Alaska pays their pilots the same as Delta does so there is little cost advantage for Delta to push passengers onto Alaska aircraft over Delta aircraft. Same went for NWA and CAL before the merger. It was better for Delta to put a passenger on a Delta plane from ATL to IAH than it was to put them on a CAL plane. Republic will be flying a 100 seat jet that can fly passengers at a much lower seat mile cost than a DC-9 or MD-88 with pilots that are paid half what the DC-9 and MD-88 guys are paid. It becomes very cost advantageous for Delta to push passengers onto the Republic 190's and park some DC-9's and MD-88's if the 190's start flying routes that Delta currently flies and they are allowed to use the DL code on the Midwest Connect flights.

I'm not too worried about it until they start flowing thought Delta hubs and we expand the codeshare agreement to place our code on the Connect flights. If that happens, it is a much different animal than us codesharing with an airline that flies the same planes for the same pay that we do.

Ferd149

Alfa,

I'm like NewK.........a little confused about where your coming from on all this. I get it that your a loyal soldier, and since I wouldn't know LM if I tripped over him in the terminal, I'll just wait till I meet him. I promise he gets his chance at a first impression........just like anyone.

But, just so I know where you stand:

a. Who do you think should fly the 50 seat RJs? The 76 seat RJs etc.

b. Is the EMB-175 an RJ?

c. How do you feel about stapeling Compass to our list?

Easy questions, your limited to one blue book

Ferd