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Old 09-13-2011, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
Is US Air really up 19% today? Must have missed some good news.
DAL is up 9%. Haven't seen it above $8 in a while.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
Is US Air really up 19% today? Must have missed some good news.
Airlines pulling back 2012 capacity. Delta 2-3% pullback from 2011 levels along with AMR and UCAL pulling back. LCC said they saw strong revenue growth in July and don't see a pullback in demand as a result of the global economic uncertainties. Bad news for pilot staffing equals great news for Wall Street. I guess the block hour plan for 2012 will result in some surpluses on the next fall bid.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Airlines pulling back 2012 capacity. Delta 2-3% pullback from 2011 levels along with AMR and UCAL pulling back. LCC said they saw strong revenue growth in July and don't see a pullback in demand as a result of the global economic uncertainties. Bad news for pilot staffing equals great news for Wall Street. I guess the block hour plan for 2012 will result in some surpluses on the next fall bid.
I bet we are no more than 2-3% off for next summer.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi
Must be good news about the slot swap. Nice catch!
Might be something bigger than that. The slot swap is a good deal for both, but a 19% jump is really significant for what the airlines involved touted as neutral.

AMR is also trading over 10 million shares today as well. UAL is trading above average too.....
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi
Must be good news about the slot swap. Nice catch!
Nope. Pulling back capacity for 2012. That seems to be the only bit of news that causes airline stocks to go up the last few years. If we post a record quarterly profit and forecast an increase in revenue, the stock goes nowhere. If we say we see demand dropping, increasing costs, global uncertainty, so we're pulling back capacity, the stock soars.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
look here: Airline Stocks Index (*FLIER) at tickerspy.com

and tell me if something looks a little odd...


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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Might be something bigger than that. The slot swap is a good deal for both, but a 19% jump is really significant for what the airlines involved touted as neutral.

AMR is also trading over 10 million shares today as well.
My gawd! Check out the volumes of DAL & LCC! I'm not a stock dude, but that's what stands out to me.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Nope. Pulling back capacity for 2012. That seems to be the only bit of news that causes airline stocks to go up the last few years. If we post a record quarterly profit and forecast an increase in revenue, the stock goes nowhere. If we say we see demand dropping, increasing costs, global uncertainty, so we're pulling back capacity, the stock soars.
An important thing to note is that they didn't say it was Mainline being pulled back. This could very well be more RJ reduction. Remember, Comair still has 50 seaters to be parked in 2012.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
My gawd! Check out the volumes of DAL & LCC! I'm not a stock dude, but that's what stands out to me.
AMR is not too far behind but has not gone over 130% where they are normally flagged.

UAL is doing well too.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
My gawd! Check out the volumes of DAL & LCC! I'm not a stock dude, but that's what stands out to me.

Ding ding ding. Winner!

It's the volume, not the price, of DAL and LCC that tell the story.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi
Ding ding ding. Winner!

It's the volume, not the price, of DAL and LCC that tell the story.
Yep, and AMR and UAL are at 125 and 120 as well. A far cry from 300% but still trading a significant amount.
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