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08-30-2011, 02:44 PM
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Delta LaGuardia Growth Bid Spurs Southwest to Demand More Slots for Rivals - Bloomberg
Delta LaGuardia Growth Bid Spurs Southwest to Demand More Slots for Rivals
By Mary Jane Credeur - Aug 30, 2011 4:11 PM ET
Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) and other carriers objected to Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL)’s efforts to expand at New York’s LaGuardia airport through a proposed swap of takeoff and landing slots with US Airways Group Inc. (LCC)
The accord between Delta and US Airways calls for divesting 48 slots to smaller rivals, about 30 percent fewer than a previous plan that those two carriers walked away from last year. Dallas-based Southwest said in a filing that there is “no justification for such smaller divestitures.”
The Department of Transportation should “seriously consider even larger carve-outs in light of the severe -- and permanent -- negative impact that the proposed transaction will have on competition,” Southwest said in a regulatory filing posted today on the agency website.
JetBlue Airways Corp. (JBLU) and Virgin America Inc. also filed objections. The Airports Council International trade group based in Washington urged regulators to deny the proposal from Atlanta-based Delta and Tempe, Arizona-based US Airways, saying it would strip local airport authorities of control of their facilities.
Last month U.S. regulators tentatively approved the deal, which would give Delta 132 more slot pairs at LaGuardia and control of about half the flights there. In exchange, US Airways would get 42 pairs at Washington Reagan National Airport.
LaGuardia and National are so congested that they are under flight restrictions, meaning carriers must trade slots in order to grow.
Delta LaGuardia Growth Bid Spurs Southwest to Demand More Slots for Rivals
By Mary Jane Credeur - Aug 30, 2011 4:11 PM ET
Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) and other carriers objected to Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL)’s efforts to expand at New York’s LaGuardia airport through a proposed swap of takeoff and landing slots with US Airways Group Inc. (LCC)
The accord between Delta and US Airways calls for divesting 48 slots to smaller rivals, about 30 percent fewer than a previous plan that those two carriers walked away from last year. Dallas-based Southwest said in a filing that there is “no justification for such smaller divestitures.”
The Department of Transportation should “seriously consider even larger carve-outs in light of the severe -- and permanent -- negative impact that the proposed transaction will have on competition,” Southwest said in a regulatory filing posted today on the agency website.
JetBlue Airways Corp. (JBLU) and Virgin America Inc. also filed objections. The Airports Council International trade group based in Washington urged regulators to deny the proposal from Atlanta-based Delta and Tempe, Arizona-based US Airways, saying it would strip local airport authorities of control of their facilities.
Last month U.S. regulators tentatively approved the deal, which would give Delta 132 more slot pairs at LaGuardia and control of about half the flights there. In exchange, US Airways would get 42 pairs at Washington Reagan National Airport.
LaGuardia and National are so congested that they are under flight restrictions, meaning carriers must trade slots in order to grow.
08-30-2011, 02:50 PM
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It is a revealing post and Check is indeed a great guy. Many pilots probably feel this way, but MOST don't. But that's not the real issue IMO. Pilot opinion is built by data. Our union is the main source of data that used to be as reliable as it got. Now, our union just re-posts data given to them by management from the closed door meetings.
The fact we have any pilots at all that do not think of scope as the #1 priority is ALPA's fault. I'll bet there's not a single pilot who thinks cabotage is unimportant. Why? Because ALPA has done a good job giving us the information on the dangers. Why won't ALPA give out the same information on the dangers of scope erosion? It would do so much to galvanize opinion on scope and enhance unity, but ALPA refuses. Why is that Bar? Why not an all-out communications assault on scope erosion similar to cabotage?
The answer is clear, but it's too painful for some to admit.
Carl
The fact we have any pilots at all that do not think of scope as the #1 priority is ALPA's fault. I'll bet there's not a single pilot who thinks cabotage is unimportant. Why? Because ALPA has done a good job giving us the information on the dangers. Why won't ALPA give out the same information on the dangers of scope erosion? It would do so much to galvanize opinion on scope and enhance unity, but ALPA refuses. Why is that Bar? Why not an all-out communications assault on scope erosion similar to cabotage?
The answer is clear, but it's too painful for some to admit.
Carl
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08-30-2011, 02:57 PM
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You guys really like the word germain (or is it germane?) lately.
Perhaps Octoberfest on the mind?
Perhaps Octoberfest on the mind?
08-30-2011, 02:57 PM
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SWA management is doing why is in their best interest. I find them annoying.
If the government capitulates to them and JB... bleep those beeping bleepers in the government.
By the way if you have to trade slots to grow, why doesn't SWA trade something we want? Like money? How about we lease slots... for a fortune. Tack on a tax on top of that, give it to lobbyist who can give it to congress.
If the government capitulates to them and JB... bleep those beeping bleepers in the government.
By the way if you have to trade slots to grow, why doesn't SWA trade something we want? Like money? How about we lease slots... for a fortune. Tack on a tax on top of that, give it to lobbyist who can give it to congress.
08-30-2011, 03:11 PM
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Sorry to interrupt, but I thought I'd stop in and provide this
as a thanks to the Delta crew that gave me a ride home (MCO-LAX) this morning.
as a thanks to the Delta crew that gave me a ride home (MCO-LAX) this morning.
08-30-2011, 03:19 PM
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SWA whining about the slot swap again? Big surprise there. Tough poop SWA. It's a DE-regulated market. Deal with it.
08-30-2011, 03:25 PM
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You're absolutely correct about staffing per base, and not just on reserves. For example, ALL ER relief pilots in Asia are ATL guys. Saw some NYC guys early on but now ALL ATL. Why aren't the west coast bases manned enough to pull our own relief pilot legs?
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You're absolutely correct about staffing per base, and not just on reserves. For example, ALL ER relief pilots in Asia are ATL guys. Saw some NYC guys early on but now ALL ATL. Why aren't the west coast bases manned enough to pull our own relief pilot legs?
Ferd
08-30-2011, 03:28 PM
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08-30-2011, 03:32 PM
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