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Old 08-22-2011, 01:35 PM
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Why not? It carries more people, has a longer range, burns less fuel and is over 9000 lbs lighter then the A321. The current A321 can not even do a transcon. With the Sharklets it will make it load restricted. We are looking for a jet in 2013. There were only two choices in this size range. One clearly has better specs. The rest comes down to price and the terms of the deal. I would assume if we order Boeing they put together a better package.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:36 PM
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This is from some website, not a news source. I had to read the thread at airliners.net. I wish I'd pony up the money and join so as to tell some, many, of those fools how disappointing it is to see DAL make a long term commitmet to a flaming bag of poo. But if passengers and performance are of little concern and Boeing gave them away then it's truly a winner.... on a balance sheet... for now.
Don't you fly the 88?
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Guntrain11
Don't you fly the 88?
I liked the 88 more than the 737!
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I liked the 88 more than the 737!

Deduct 1 credibility point for that one.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Why not? It carries more people, has a longer range, burns less fuel and is over 9000 lbs lighter then the A321. The current A321 can not even do a transcon. With the Sharklets it will make it load restricted. We are looking for a jet in 2013. There were only two choices in this size range. One clearly has better specs. The rest comes down to price and the terms of the deal. I would assume if we order Boeing they put together a better package.
Our bid was for 200+ planes, there's more to come soon IMHO
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I liked the 88 more than the 737!
Originally Posted by scambo1
Deduct 1 credibility point for that one.
Then add 10.
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Had an interesting couple of minutes in Atlanta this weekend. Waiting to park, our rampers got into a fist fight. One dude was pounding on the guy holding the stoplight control. Others got involved and eventually stopped the a$$-whoopin'. Everyone on the left side of the plane saw our wonderful customer service at its finest. Five minutes of burning gas later, we finally parked. If I was boss for a day I'd fire soooo many people.
Poor working conditions plus low pay plus disgusting heat?
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Why not? It carries more people, has a longer range, burns less fuel and is over 9000 lbs lighter then the A321. The current A321 can not even do a transcon. With the Sharklets it will make it load restricted. We are looking for a jet in 2013. There were only two choices in this size range. One clearly has better specs. The rest comes down to price and the terms of the deal. I would assume if we order Boeing they put together a better package.
We're going to replace a 180 seater with a 170 seater that pays less.

From a pilots standpoint there is nothing to be happy about.

From a passenger standpoint we've already discussed the 739's long list of issues. From a pilot's perspective 944 has flown it and "hated it" (picture In Living Color with that hated it).

Let's face it, this is an airplane that will **** off our passengers and probably our pilots. I'll be honest, I was excited to fly one IAH-DEN because it was new and cool and loooong. Got off it and swore I'd never fly on it again. But I had too on the way back. So the next time I got off it and found myself still hating it. And back then I was all pro Boeing screw Airbus. Wasn't long after that, plus lots of rides on 735s, I decided not to be pro Boeing.

It's going to be sad when people rather be on a CRJ-200 than one of Delta's new 739s. We're buying an airplane, new, that blows. Nobody raves about it. It blows. Hate to see us go down this road. I'm not bidding for it, probably won't fly on it, just hate to see my airline pick it. If they ordered 10 and 90 738s okay, but 100 739s?

By the way spoke to someone in engineering once and they weren't thrilled when the 738 didn't live up to expectations as a 752 replacement in Latin America. Can't imagine what they'll think of the 739.

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Old 08-22-2011, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I liked the 88 more than the 737!
No way dude. I've flown 'em both as well and its not even close.
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:04 PM
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And from an operational standpoint, it will be a disaster. We'll be asking for volunteers on every flight over 5 hours just to carry the gas. This aircraft was designed for short high density segments. Boeing has sold it as something it was never intended to be. We are trading 70's engineering for '50's engineering. The visionaries of yesteryear that built the industry on new capabilities would be appalled.

I'm sure Boeing was more than happy to sell these to DL, and it was probably done with a pie chart.
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