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Old 08-21-2011, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Thanks guys... oh well.

Kind of ironic since the only difference was taxiing the plane around for a bit and flying an approach from the left seat during the MV. Now I will be able to taxi fully from the right seat and won't have said PIC rating. Go figure!

I'm honestly just looking forward to the french guy yelling at me more than anything!
Just remember, when it says "retard", the first two are verbs, the third is a noun
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:22 AM
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Delta prefers to give the PIC to all initial training pilots. Then when the pilot goes through upgrade training down the line, the school is much shorter (total of 4 days for current FO's). The 320 training program hasn't been streamlined into Delta's AQP training syllabus as of yet. The SIC isn't a big deal for anything but you'll have to go through the all the hoops if you upgrade.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
It matters if we furlough. The PIC type is worth more on the job market.
It has nothing to do with that... I just found it to be an anomaly from what I'm used to here.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:55 AM
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Just to clarify things, the ICAO standard was a type rating and their was only one type rating, no difference between PIC or SIC. In the past, US carriers who flew international gave FOs a type rating, again not specified PIC or SIC. It became an issue, mostly outside of the majors, when FOs didn't have any type rating and flew outside the US. The FAA created the SIC type rating as a minimal compliance with the ICAO requirement and the traditional FAA way of doing business for FO.

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Old 08-21-2011, 02:36 PM
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I got a SIC type on the DC-9 (88) when I got hired here back in 07, so I think it depends on the airplane you're on. Probably depends on the mission the plane flies as to whether or not a PIC type is required.

On the ER, it was required because someone on the flight deck had to have a PIC rating, so if the Captain was on break the co-pilots would have to have the PIC rating.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingnutdal
On the ER, it was required because someone on the flight deck had to have a PIC rating, so if the Captain was on break the co-pilots would have to have the PIC rating.
Bingo, the 738 was going to do augmented flying into deep South America sometime in 2008, but the plans changed. That's according to PR who was the fleet manager at the time.

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Old 08-21-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Bingo, the 738 was going to do augmented flying into deep South America sometime in 2008, but the plans changed. That's according to PR who was the fleet manager at the time.
Were the planes going to be modified? The 737-700 can't get to deep SA, much less an 800.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
CNN is reporting a DAL pilot was killed performing stunts at an airshow in Kansas City a few hours ago.
This is very sad news. I had the distinct pleasure of flying with Bryan very early in my career. He was a consummate airman. Truly, a pilot's pilot. He will be missed.

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
Just remember, when it says "retard", the first two are verbs, the third is a noun
Now I have something to shoot for...hope the pax won't mind a few firm ones.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cohiba
Delta prefers to give the PIC to all initial training pilots. Then when the pilot goes through upgrade training down the line, the school is much shorter (total of 4 days for current FO's). The 320 training program hasn't been streamlined into Delta's AQP training syllabus as of yet. The SIC isn't a big deal for anything but you'll have to go through the all the hoops if you upgrade.
Not on the 88.
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