Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-13-2011, 10:32 AM
  #73511  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MoonShot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,057
Default

I saw Carl and his copilot in the flight planning room the other day...

MoonShot is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:13 AM
  #73512  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 793
Default

Food was pretty decent for the price; got more than I could eat. Place is a dump, but not as filthy as the hotel.

Can not understand why we are staying at this place.
Jesse is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:22 AM
  #73513  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Ferd149's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
Posts: 3,457
Default

Originally Posted by shiznit
Fixed it for you!!
Perfect!!
Ferd149 is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:23 AM
  #73514  
Can't abide NAI
 
Bucking Bar's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,038
Default

Anyone know what it would take to get Ship 41 flying again?



It would be a lot cheaper than taking the 757 to air shows.

Wonder how much DC3 time the insurance underwriters would require for PIC?
Bucking Bar is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:41 AM
  #73515  
Weekend and Holiday Pilot
 
Doug Masters's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Sippin' at the Troubadour
Posts: 1,142
Default

Originally Posted by forgot to bid
ha ha, speaking of all this sports and babes stuff, my wife sent me a text that tiger woods is working out at our gym. i live near where the pga championship is.

Oh I can see the AJC headline now: "DAL management reports MD88 FO's are living on the Atlanta Athletic Club PGA golf course. Why do they need a raise?" Way to go ftb...
Doug Masters is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 11:54 AM
  #73516  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Anyone know what it would take to get Ship 41 flying again?



It would be a lot cheaper than taking the 757 to air shows.

Wonder how much DC3 time the insurance underwriters would require for PIC?
How in the world did they ever get more than 76 seats in that thing?
gloopy is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 01:14 PM
  #73517  
Gets Weekends Off
 
FedElta's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Retired, again...
Posts: 608
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Anyone know what it would take to get Ship 41 flying again?



It would be a lot cheaper than taking the 757 to air shows.

Wonder how much DC3 time the insurance underwriters would require for PIC?
Hey Bar,

That's about the only thing at DAL older than I am..........got over a thousand hours in the 3....40, 20, Cowl flaps..trail.
FedElta is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 01:53 PM
  #73518  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,530
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Anyone know what it would take to get Ship 41 flying again?



It would be a lot cheaper than taking the 757 to air shows.

Wonder how much DC3 time the insurance underwriters would require for PIC?
What's a DC3?
Columbia is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 02:42 PM
  #73519  
On Reserve
 
Elvis90's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: MSP7ERB
Posts: 1,886
Default Brent Crude vice WTI

Brent crude is Delta's new measure for pricing oil
August 12, 2011

In an effort to more accurately share the fuel prices that have the most impact on the company, Delta recently adopted the Brent price for crude oil and this is now being reported on DeltaNet and in the Delta Daily instead of West Texas Intermediate or WTI.

What Delta previously did and what most other carriers do today is price their oil from West Texas Intermediate supplies. The WTI oil stock is stored in Cushing, Okla., and is often called “light, sweet crude” because of how easy it is to refine and because of its low sulfur content. Brent oil, which was named after the Brent Goose when oil fields in Europe were named after birds, has more sulfur in it, making it less “sweet”, which means a bit more refining is required to turn the crude oil into gas and products such as jet fuel.

“One of the biggest things we’ve done as a group was in March when Delta moved away from WTI as its primary hedging vehicle,” said Jon Ruggles, v. p. of fuel who recently joined Delta to oversee trading and buying. “Because there’s not enough transportation of the fuel stored in Oklahoma to refineries, the price of West Texas Intermediate isn’t as useful in terms of how Delta or other airlines buy fuel or take trading positions related to hedging our risks.”

And there’s more to the fuel story than just crude oil prices; getting jet fuel out of crude requires “cracking” at large refineries around the world. The fluctuating price to break down crude oil into other petroleum products is called the crack spread, and that number has been rising steadily in the past year as refineries have preferred to make more profitable gasoline than less-lucrative jet fuel.

The high crack spreads keep Delta’s total fuel bill up even when raw crude oil prices have fallen as has been the case this month as economic uncertainty damped investor appetite for oil.

As Richard said in his Right from Richard message on Friday, “even though we’re seeing a little relief on the fuel front, fuel is still higher today than it was on the first of January of 2011. It’s clear the economy still has many challenges and we have no reason to think low fuel prices will stick.”

The crack spread numbers are at or above all-time records, masking the crude oil drops seen in both West Texas Intermediate and Brent oil.

“Don’t always be fooled by fuel prices because we have to refine a barrel of oil and the crack spreads – which is the cost of refining fuel – are still very high,” Richard said. “So we have to always be thinking and being vigilant about changing the way we do business.

That’s why Delta’s initiatives to lower nonfuel costs – retiring aircraft, consolidating real estate and offering voluntary packages – are working to keep the carrier’s margins healthy so that future price spikes aren’t as harmful.

As Ruggles said in the What’s the 411? Q&A, WTI may yet return as the benchmark crude price if more ways to move it from Oklahoma develop. But for now Delta sticks to the Brent crude when thinking about its fuel costs.
Elvis90 is offline  
Old 08-13-2011, 02:43 PM
  #73520  
Looking for a laugh
 
Justdoinmyjob's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Anyone know what it would take to get Ship 41 flying again?



It would be a lot cheaper than taking the 757 to air shows.

Wonder how much DC3 time the insurance underwriters would require for PIC?
I own and fly a taildragger. Might even have more taildragger time than some of the management pilots who managed to ground loop Ship 41. Think they'll let some regular line pilots fly it?
Justdoinmyjob is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices