Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-08-2011, 06:26 PM
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I'd like to invite her on my boat Wednesday. Anyone care to share her number with me?!!?? Ladies clothing is always optional on Westpoint Lake. I bet with one ride on the tube I could rip the rest of her clothes off.
08-08-2011, 06:31 PM
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08-08-2011, 06:34 PM
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The bummer of the rotation construction survey was that it was oriented 99% to domestic. I will say, domestic probably needed the majority of the emphasis, but I was hoping for a little bone thrown to int'l especially with regard to trip length.
I dont know for sure, but anecdotal evidence seems to me that if you dont live in the ATL, longer trips might be preferable to commuting multiple times to/from base.
I also agree that the SOT did a pretty sweet job of improving things. I am thinking that wrt reserve, there are a few areas in which they could make improvements that would make it downright palatable or even preferable. One of these would be to actually give you credit, not pay (say 5 hrs) for each short call. That way you wouldnt have a 20 day 65 hr month with 5 shortcalls.
I am still a little fuzzy on how seniority on reserve will work. It has been a while since we had that system and it has never been one where you could fully skate if you wanted.
I dont know for sure, but anecdotal evidence seems to me that if you dont live in the ATL, longer trips might be preferable to commuting multiple times to/from base.
I also agree that the SOT did a pretty sweet job of improving things. I am thinking that wrt reserve, there are a few areas in which they could make improvements that would make it downright palatable or even preferable. One of these would be to actually give you credit, not pay (say 5 hrs) for each short call. That way you wouldnt have a 20 day 65 hr month with 5 shortcalls.
I am still a little fuzzy on how seniority on reserve will work. It has been a while since we had that system and it has never been one where you could fully skate if you wanted.
I'm one of the most senior reserve guys in LA on the 73. I don't want to skate, I just want to fly. And I'd love to be able to fly more than the guarantee from time to time. I've had a GS in for several months, never gotten a nibble. Even when I put in Yellows I don't have a huge amount of confidence that I'll get one. I'm not asking for a lot here, I'll fly the crappy stuff, just let me have some input.
08-08-2011, 06:53 PM
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08-08-2011, 06:56 PM
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08-08-2011, 07:30 PM
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08-08-2011, 07:34 PM
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08-08-2011, 08:29 PM
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I'm okay with upfront 12%/hr cut in C2012...
Look, times are tough.
We are about to go into contract negotiations with the big recession getting tremendously worse. We're intercoursed. There is no way we're going to get SWA + anything much less SWA + 15% rates for the DC9. And if we did, how could they afford to give all of the other employees similar and significant pay raises? They can't. Can't happen. Fruitless cause.
Sure Scambo and others have funded the airline these past few years with $300,000 plus givebacks in flight pay alone to help the airline recover from the sins of management teams of old. But it's time we help the company even further.
Now look, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a negative nancy or to buy in the DALPA managed expectations game, but I am perfectly willing to:
1. Take a 12% pay cut in the first year of C2012 with a 5% increase year after year after that, as long as,
We are about to go into contract negotiations with the big recession getting tremendously worse. We're intercoursed. There is no way we're going to get SWA + anything much less SWA + 15% rates for the DC9. And if we did, how could they afford to give all of the other employees similar and significant pay raises? They can't. Can't happen. Fruitless cause.
Sure Scambo and others have funded the airline these past few years with $300,000 plus givebacks in flight pay alone to help the airline recover from the sins of management teams of old. But it's time we help the company even further.
Now look, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a negative nancy or to buy in the DALPA managed expectations game, but I am perfectly willing to:
1. Take a 12% pay cut in the first year of C2012 with a 5% increase year after year after that, as long as,
A. We're paid by the duty hour with a minimum of 9 hours per day with a average daily hourly value of 6 hours per trip,
B. To further reduce costs, reserve pilots will only be on reserve 13 days a month,
C. Scope can stay where it is, until 2014, where pay will increase 1 percentage point for every 70+ seat regional jet flying for Delta Connection and 1/10th of 1 percentage point for every flight flown by Alaska as a Delta codeshare flight from a Delta or Northwest pilot base that existed in 1996, and
D. The company, Delta, shall explain to all shareholders and employees that their pilots have continuously and consistently been willing to help fund the success of this airline off their own backs and that they shall bow down and worship the ground we walk on from here on out.
B. To further reduce costs, reserve pilots will only be on reserve 13 days a month,
C. Scope can stay where it is, until 2014, where pay will increase 1 percentage point for every 70+ seat regional jet flying for Delta Connection and 1/10th of 1 percentage point for every flight flown by Alaska as a Delta codeshare flight from a Delta or Northwest pilot base that existed in 1996, and
D. The company, Delta, shall explain to all shareholders and employees that their pilots have continuously and consistently been willing to help fund the success of this airline off their own backs and that they shall bow down and worship the ground we walk on from here on out.
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08-08-2011, 08:40 PM
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08-08-2011, 09:25 PM
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