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Old 07-28-2011, 02:16 PM
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I was at a meeting today, ya know the one that the MEC put on for the pilots that live in ATL.
Aw man I couldve attended!!!!!!!!

If it had been on the Internet. I'm on an overnight.
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I was at a meeting today, ya know the one that the MEC put on for the pilots that live in ATL.
So what'd they say? Anybody go to the Flt Ops lounge show?
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
So what'd they say? Anybody go to the Flt Ops lounge show?
Wasn't it on the internet?
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Interesting compare and contrast......
Here's another:




I know it's hard to read but so here: http://www.jetbluefacts.com/a-picture-says-it-all/
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Wasn't it on the internet?

Actually, I think the ATL roadshow was held in MCO. It was the biggest turnout they had ever seen.
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:11 PM
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And so it's 35% required to have a vote if you have no union right? Which is my question again that I heard from the guy I'm flying with - if the contract goes past the amendable date then the DPA only needs 35%+1 and not 50%+1. Is that true?

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Old 07-28-2011, 03:23 PM
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For a scratch your head moment:

When in Monte Carlo, everything is done in style. And that includes crashing your car.

This was the moment when a woman driver caused a £700,000 five-car pile-up as her Bentley collided with a Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche and Aston Martin.

Disaster struck as the hapless blonde negotiated the traffic around the Place du Casino in her £250,000 Bentley Azure.

The driver of a white Mercedes S Class worth £75,000 was the first victim as the 2.7-ton Bentley scraped down the side of it before ploughing into a £143,000 black Ferrari F430.

Read more: Hapless blonde crashes £250k Bentley into FOUR other supercars | Mail Online



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The crash occurred when the woman drove her $403,000 blue Bentley Azure down the main route of Place du Casino in Monaco into a $121,000 Mercedes Benz S Class, a $231,000 Ferrari 430, a $242,000 Aston Martin Rapide and a $129,000 Porsche 911.

Read more: Blonde + Bentley = One expensive fender bender | AHN
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How is this push by Jet Blue management not considered "interference" ?

Funny how all the ALPA bashers resonate on the alleged "conflict of interest." Around DPA, ALPA unfairly favors express pilots, at Jet Blue, ALPA unfairly favors major pilots, how can ALPA be unfair to everyone, all the time?

ALPA's failure, is that it has failed to convince pilots how good it has been and how good it can be. Pilots do not appreciate what ALPA offers our profession, because for them, the ride has been mostly a 1.95% effort.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
And so it's 35% required to have a vote if you have no union right? Which is my question again that I heard from the guy I'm flying with - if the contract goes past the amendable date then the DPA only needs 35%+1 and not 50%+1. Is that true?
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That is NOT true. Under the Railway Labor Act, contracts remain in full effect even past the amendable date and the bargaining agent does not change unless 50% plus 1 sign cards. The DPA needs 50% either now or after the amendable date in order to trigger an election. There's no difference.

Here's the NMB regs:

§ 1206.2 Percentage of valid authorizations required to determine existence of a representation dispute.
(a) Where the employees involved in a representation dispute are represented by an individual or labor organization, either local or national in scope and are covered by a valid existing contract between such representative and the carrier a showing of proved authorizations (checked and verified as to date, signature, and employment status) from at least a majority of the craft or class must be made before the National Mediation Board will authorize an election or otherwise determine the representation desires of the employees under the provisions of section 2, Ninth, of the Railway Labor Act.
(b) Where the employees involved in a representation dispute are unrepresented, a showing of proved authorizations from at least thirty-five (35) percent of the employees in the craft or class must be made before the National Mediation Board will authorize an election or otherwise determine the representation desires of the employees under the provisions of section 2, Ninth, of the Railway Labor Act.

§ 1206.3 Age of authorization cards.
Authorizations must be signed and dated in the employee's own handwriting or witnessed mark. No authorizations will be accepted by the National Mediation Board in any employee representation dispute which bear a date prior to one year before the date of the application for the investigation of such dispute.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
And so it's 35% required to have a vote if you have no union right? Which is my question again that I heard from the guy I'm flying with - if the contract goes past the amendable date then the DPA only needs 35%+1 and not 50%+1. Is that true?

No that is not true, because just because we are past the "amenable" date doesn't mean that the contract has "expired" (RLA contracts don't ever expire) nor have we lost union representation. It just means the contract is "amenable."
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