Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-28-2011, 10:18 AM
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07-28-2011, 10:24 AM
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They went over the company financials a little bit as well as fall capacity cuts and why. Nothing really new here. Crew planning did say they were surprised by the number of early outs but even with that as of today we are in line to be adequately staffed for summer 2012 (no 2011 hiring). This, however, does not take into account the slot swap and FTDT as well as if the block time for summer 2012 goes up. Doesn't sound like there will be a quick clean up bid but rather a normal bid come oct to nov time frame. DC-9 MEM looks like it may be closed on this bid and also the 737 DTW being looked at. The slot swap seems like it's a big driver of the next bid. The 330 is the one that may have a supply problem. With guys taking the early out, shift to 12 hour flights, and moving sims to ATL we may get behind the curve. Looking at outside sims to accommodate the extra training there. There are also still running the numbers on retirements and how to manage those. Thats about all I can remember.
07-28-2011, 10:56 AM
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07-28-2011, 11:27 AM
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07-28-2011, 11:34 AM
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AIRLINE: APCF L&G DAL COUNCIL: 01
CITY: Anonymous
DATE: July 28, 2011
A regular meeting of APC L&G Council 01 was held in Anonymous on July 28, 2011.
Officers Present
All Withheld
Members Present
All Ya'll
Attendance roster is on file at APCF.
1500 CALL TO ORDER
Check Essential called the meeting to order.
Officer Reports
Carl Spackler discussed current issues with DALPA, ALPA and DPA.
Carl Spakler discussed, to jeers in the room, personal issues with Carl Spackler and that the DPA is nothing but NWA pilots who want to overturn the SLI in their favor.
FTB discussed changing Carl Spakler's name to Taternuts.
Check Essential apologized for an oversize picture posting.
80ktsclamp apologized for Check Essential apology for oversize pictures.
rahc requested a discussion on raw scores.
FTB discussed the guilty pleasure of toying with non-pilots posting on APCF as pilots.
Deadhead discussed the nations debt and budgets.
Bar discussed financial and macro industry directional things that are pretty darn confusing.
Fedelta discussed Hong Kong and first year pay at Fedex, mumbling could be heard about a $100,000 a year salary while some mumbled about whether Delta would open a Hong Kong base while Ferd angrily demanded a Hong Kong base.
Bar discussed the need for young pilots to consider leaving Delta Air Lines for another airline.
Lobo discussed what the definition of young is.
Several pilots blurted out nonsensical definitions.
Bluemoon discussed the need to clarify if it is 1/2 your age + 7 or 1/2 your age + 8.
Buzz discussed the long term advantages and benefits of 1/2 your age + nothing much.
Tsquare discussed the benefits of moving to Utah.
Silence filled the forum.
NEW BUSINESS
Resolution to Redefine the Definition of "Acceptable Age Difference” as 1/2 age + 7.
Maker: Bluemoon
Second: Buzzpat
Thirded: Lobo
WHEREAS it would be far more fun to make the rule 1/2 your age but not less than 18.
WHEREAS 1/2 of 50 is 25, plus 8 is 33 but plus 7 is 32. None of which are 30 or under.
WHEREAS 1/2 of 35 plus 7 is 24. Not bad, but not as good as 17.5 which is rounded up to 18.
WHEREAS 30 can be a lot hotter than 20.
WHEREAS 80ktsclamp disagrees completely.
WHEREAS women hit their sexual peak between 35-40.
WHEREAS 80ktsclamp agrees further discussion warranted.
WHEREAS no matter how old we get, coeds stay the same age... and stay just as emotionally unstable and not in the mood to be treated like a commodity as they've always been.
WHEREAS it would be more fun to live in sexually lawless Utah.
Passed: Unanimous
Resolution to exempt picture posting on Airline Pilot Central Forums Any Latest & Greatest about Delta for 1/2 age + 7 rule and live in envy of the lifestyle of a Los Angeles based play boy author / 737 pilot:
WHEREAS pictures are not emotional and do not talk.
WHEREAS we're not as cool as Buzz.
Passed: Unanimous
1534 Meeting adjorned.
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07-28-2011, 11:40 AM
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Did not look at the volume, but I believe that Wall Street is losing its nerve wrt to DAL. We blasted though our 52 week lows a few weeks ago, got the added capacity cuts that I feared, and now the investors are at the point where DAL is not making the money they want, and CASM will start going up due to less ASM's.
I suspect that there is pressure on the leadership team to do something besides to stay the course.
I suspect that there is pressure on the leadership team to do something besides to stay the course.
07-28-2011, 11:45 AM
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"It continued: “We urge the nation’s airlines to put all of the profits that they are making from the lapse of the aviation taxes into an escrow account” so they can be transferred back into the government’s Airport and Airway Trust Fund when Congress reinstates the taxes, adding that “our nation’s aviation system cannot afford to have this tax revenue siphoned off by the industry.”
I think this is the real key. None of the airlines believe that the govt. is just going to let this money go. They are going to come after it once the FAA gets funding. Then it would just come out of the bottom line. I heard at the crew lounge visit yesterday that this is exactly what we are doing. We are putting the money in escrow so that when the govt. comes looking for it we will have it. Just a another way for the govt to shift the focus off of them. Why this isn't our official statement is beyond me. We sure are getting bad press of this.
I think this is the real key. None of the airlines believe that the govt. is just going to let this money go. They are going to come after it once the FAA gets funding. Then it would just come out of the bottom line. I heard at the crew lounge visit yesterday that this is exactly what we are doing. We are putting the money in escrow so that when the govt. comes looking for it we will have it. Just a another way for the govt to shift the focus off of them. Why this isn't our official statement is beyond me. We sure are getting bad press of this.
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07-28-2011, 11:52 AM
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They went over the company financials a little bit as well as fall capacity cuts and why. Nothing really new here. Crew planning did say they were surprised by the number of early outs but even with that as of today we are in line to be adequately staffed for summer 2012 (no 2011 hiring). This, however, does not take into account the slot swap and FTDT as well as if the block time for summer 2012 goes up. Doesn't sound like there will be a quick clean up bid but rather a normal bid come oct to nov time frame. DC-9 MEM looks like it may be closed on this bid and also the 737 DTW being looked at. The slot swap seems like it's a big driver of the next bid. The 330 is the one that may have a supply problem. With guys taking the early out, shift to 12 hour flights, and moving sims to ATL we may get behind the curve. Looking at outside sims to accommodate the extra training there. There are also still running the numbers on retirements and how to manage those. Thats about all I can remember.
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