Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-27-2011, 08:10 AM
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I have pretty much punted the idea of the LGBP proposal, so it is in a dead file around here somewhere. I was saying that I think there are too many barriers for that apple to be eaten all at once. Besides, with the looming parking of the 4 747s, it will be interesting to see how many guys take a haircut with the displacements.. I am warming up the Jiffypop for that. I think that maybe the WB/NB crowd has a more doable proposal anyway, and it would probably move us in a better direction.
You are probably right that many of my peers don't want the same things I do. The problem is that a lot of the fringe ideas out there never see the light of day, because of the strength of the union machinery to perpetuate the status quo as being the only way to do things. The "changes" I am "seeking" are one man's thoughts on how to get more pilots involved in the day to day process. It's very simple really, you have to make the meetings more accessible to the average guy, and continuing to have base meetings where the majority of guys are not physically located does nothing to promote this involvement. You can jump up and down and hold your breath all day and tell guys they need to get involved, but until you satisfy that ease of access, you are spitting in the wind.
But I am sure I am wrong....
You are probably right that many of my peers don't want the same things I do. The problem is that a lot of the fringe ideas out there never see the light of day, because of the strength of the union machinery to perpetuate the status quo as being the only way to do things. The "changes" I am "seeking" are one man's thoughts on how to get more pilots involved in the day to day process. It's very simple really, you have to make the meetings more accessible to the average guy, and continuing to have base meetings where the majority of guys are not physically located does nothing to promote this involvement. You can jump up and down and hold your breath all day and tell guys they need to get involved, but until you satisfy that ease of access, you are spitting in the wind.
But I am sure I am wrong....
07-27-2011, 08:30 AM
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Whatever??!! Wall Street can suck it! I for one am going to relish on the nice profit we made. Think about it, airlines lose money; and the street loves it. Airlines make money; the street dumps them. "f"
the street.
Btw, I have a feeling the doom and gloom is all about posturing and "setting" the pilots' expectations lower. WAKE UP, we made profit!!<--In this flimsy marketplace/economy.
TEN
the street.Btw, I have a feeling the doom and gloom is all about posturing and "setting" the pilots' expectations lower. WAKE UP, we made profit!!<--In this flimsy marketplace/economy.
TEN
07-27-2011, 09:03 AM
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What is the best computer (netbook, tablet) to take on the road that easily accesses Deltanet, Icrew, travelnet, PBS etc..I want simplicity and a keyboard, also light weight. Mainly just for that purpose. I've noticed the tablets have some keyboards now that are sold separately. Just curious what others are using?
07-27-2011, 09:04 AM
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07-27-2011, 09:05 AM
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07-27-2011, 09:14 AM
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What would be the gain in that? USAir's Europe presence is paultry compared to ours and most of our competitors. Maybe the terms on the planes are favorable? But is that enough to go through the mess of a fragmentation and partial merger with the most senior pilot group in the world?
Even if the terms on the 330's were good, are they really better than what we could get with an AAesque massive jet order like we're likely going to place one way or the other anyway? I could see if we needed the lift now, especially to EU, but we clearly are dumping as much as we can as fast as we can. So dumping our own capacity only to pick up theirs makes little sense other than as a crafty way to reduce total seat counts and drive up demand. But if we do that, UCAL, AA and a ton of subsidized foreign airlines will pick up the slack pretty quickly.
So what's in it for us?
Even if the terms on the 330's were good, are they really better than what we could get with an AAesque massive jet order like we're likely going to place one way or the other anyway? I could see if we needed the lift now, especially to EU, but we clearly are dumping as much as we can as fast as we can. So dumping our own capacity only to pick up theirs makes little sense other than as a crafty way to reduce total seat counts and drive up demand. But if we do that, UCAL, AA and a ton of subsidized foreign airlines will pick up the slack pretty quickly.
So what's in it for us?
07-27-2011, 09:18 AM
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What is the best computer (netbook, tablet) to take on the road that easily accesses Deltanet, Icrew, travelnet, PBS etc..I want simplicity and a keyboard, also light weight. Mainly just for that purpose. I've noticed the tablets have some keyboards now that are sold separately. Just curious what others are using?
I have a HP mini and it works great. It has a nine hour battery, and has Windows 7 on it. I have no complaints with it.
I also have a Apple I-Pad 64G 3G. I use Mercury and can access I-Crew with no issues.
The HP goes for about 350 and the I-pad was 812 with our discount.
07-27-2011, 09:39 AM
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What would be the gain in that? USAir's Europe presence is paultry compared to ours and most of our competitors. Maybe the terms on the planes are favorable? But is that enough to go through the mess of a fragmentation and partial merger with the most senior pilot group in the world?
Even if the terms on the 330's were good, are they really better than what we could get with an AAesque massive jet order like we're likely going to place one way or the other anyway? I could see if we needed the lift now, especially to EU, but we clearly are dumping as much as we can as fast as we can. So dumping our own capacity only to pick up theirs makes little sense other than as a crafty way to reduce total seat counts and drive up demand. But if we do that, UCAL, AA and a ton of subsidized foreign airlines will pick up the slack pretty quickly.
So what's in it for us?
Even if the terms on the 330's were good, are they really better than what we could get with an AAesque massive jet order like we're likely going to place one way or the other anyway? I could see if we needed the lift now, especially to EU, but we clearly are dumping as much as we can as fast as we can. So dumping our own capacity only to pick up theirs makes little sense other than as a crafty way to reduce total seat counts and drive up demand. But if we do that, UCAL, AA and a ton of subsidized foreign airlines will pick up the slack pretty quickly.
So what's in it for us?
07-27-2011, 09:40 AM
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What is the best computer (netbook, tablet) to take on the road that easily accesses Deltanet, Icrew, travelnet, PBS etc..I want simplicity and a keyboard, also light weight. Mainly just for that purpose. I've noticed the tablets have some keyboards now that are sold separately. Just curious what others are using?
07-27-2011, 09:46 AM
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Alpa has no problem setting up meetings in an airport. When I was at Skywest they did it all the time. Alpa rented a room near the Skywest pilot lounge in Salt Lake City. Every day there was food, drinks and plenty of union talk. Why can't we rent a room in ATL, DTW, MSP and have the meetings there? Heck, why not rent a room in MCO for all those Floridians???? We could call it a satellite meeting and have reps from multiple MEC's there.
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