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Old 07-27-2011, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Uh oh.

More capacity reductions than previously announced.
Significantly more. Q4 will be down 20% from peak summer.
Meh. More RJ's being parked and EAS flying going bye-bye.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:08 AM
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366 million dollar profit for this quarter.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy



I believe we should open at SWA + 10% (at an absolute minimum).
I also believe we should clearly state "not one more jet, not one more seat, not one more pound" as it relates to RJs, and I'm willing to try to buy back the flying we lost in bankruptcy (reset the line to 70 seats) but not willing to buy back the flying we've never owned (70 and below).
I want to correct this, or add to it. It is now 65 and below since they took seats out of the 70 seat jets and added a first class.

Also, according to some, at one point we owned none of it, so let be careful how we argue this.

As for SWA+10, I think we will open above that and do not see this pilot group voting in a TA that does anything except what you state above; SWA+10%

That is all personal opinion - I'm not an elected rep, and they will be determining what our priorities are after reviewing the results of 12000 pilots input via the survey. I have absolutely zero doubt that our opener will reflect the will of the 12000 pilots because I believe in our elected reps. The ones I vote for, and the ones each pilot votes for. They control the agenda, they control the timeline, and they will control the opener.
They do and that is why it is imperative that the pilot group hold them accountable.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Uh oh.

More capacity reductions than previously announced.
Significantly more. Q4 will be down 20% from peak summer. Did he just say that?
As I suspected.......................
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:13 AM
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Investors are not happy, DAL's stock is going to 52 week lows very quickly.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Uh oh.

More capacity reductions than previously announced.
Significantly more. Q4 will be down 20% from peak summer. Did he just say that?
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Investors are not happy, DAL's stock is going to 52 week lows very quickly.
Bingo. Have to keep them happy. JB's stock got HAMMERED yesterday after they fell short of expectations.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I have said it before, and will say it again; ALPA National has heard us loud and clear on this desire, but there are legal issues, and end user security that they want to minimize before allowing this sort of medium to be the platform used. Things like a pilot blowing off steam that could be construed as a cal for illegal job action come to mind. The last thing any of us wants is to learn the lesson in a court of law where it could effect a pilots livelihood.

I do know that they are continually working on a solution to this. Of course many feel they are too slow, but I personally do not want them to rush to market on a program that may cost a pilot their job over one errant comment. I am sure that when they find a solution they will come forth with it. It is not a dead issue.
I think a restructuring of LECs is a more practical solution. (For example) With so many commuters in Florida, and zero bases here, it would make more sense to have chapters in a city closest to the largest density of those homesteads. This, and go to block representation so that no particular LEC garners too much power.. unlike today's situation. (ATL) I am sure though, that something like that won't even be considered, because the system we have in place has been in place for decades, and even though the industry has changed, the union once again has the perfect setup, and knows what's best.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Maddoggin
While I have no info on who the potential merger partner would be I do think further consolidation is in our future in the next couple of years. My theory is we won't ever see a 2012 contract before another merger. They will delay the process long enough to find another merger partner. Management has learned that including the pilots up front with regards to the merger is a must. They would rather delay Contract 2012 and give contract improvement in the form of a JCBA a couple of years later. They will try to avoid at all cost a big Contract 2012 increase and then another increase via a JCBA. Not what I would like to see but it is the way I see it going down.

Remember that any new acquisition will not be to the level of the NWA/DAL merger. We will be buying someone smaller. I do not think the DOJ would allow us to merger with someone like AMR.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:25 AM
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Retiring 140 airplanes. Half this year and half in 2012.
Mostly RJs so that's good, but isn't that a bigger number than we've heard before?
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I think a restructuring of LECs is a more practical solution. (For example) With so many commuters in Florida, and zero bases here, it would make more sense to have chapters in a city closest to the largest density of those homesteads. This, and go to block representation so that no particular LEC garners too much power.. unlike today's situation. (ATL) I am sure though, that something like that won't even be considered, because the system we have in place has been in place for decades, and even though the industry has changed, the union once again has the perfect setup, and knows what's best.

That would require a rewrite of the by-laws, because LEC are designed to protect the interests of those flying out of a base. By doing what you suggest, that intent is gone, and now it becomes a geographic location.
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