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Old 07-26-2011, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate
Not worried about my reps in MSP either, it appears its the entire Moak "legacy" crowd above the councils that needs to be recalled. I'm sure as soon as they tell their lemming reps to do so it will happen.
Give me a break. One of these days, perhaps, you guys will quit this juvenile behavior... or not.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:03 PM
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B6, AS, or part of UsAir could work well for DAL. Problem with AS is they are freaking expensive!
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Give me a break. One of these days, perhaps, you guys will quit this juvenile behavior... or not.
I hope the same for certain people in our union positions.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate
Not worried about my reps in MSP either, it appears its the entire Moak "legacy" crowd above the councils that needs to be recalled. I'm sure as soon as they tell their lemming reps to do so it will happen.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Give me a break. One of these days, perhaps, you guys will quit this juvenile behavior... or not.

PG, you have to admit, it did give you a laugh. I know I laughed at it. Heck, it is just plain funny.

I also believe a lot of our group just want ALPA to prove it with an awesome contract, that protects our jobs and futures. Like I have said, almost every pilot I fly with has slightly less distrust for ALPA as they do for our employer.

It may be a sad state of affairs, but it does not change reality.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Give me a break. One of these days, perhaps, you guys will quit this juvenile behavior... or not.
You suggest recalling reps, but suggesting a recall of the chairman is juvenile? Fact is, as a lot of people see it Moak and his descendants, heirs and supporters are responsible for the DPA phenom. DPA is a bad idea. Changing your union leadership if it's not delivering what the pilots are asking for is not.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
B6, AS, or part of UsAir could work well for DAL. Problem with AS is they are freaking expensive!
LCC is up for grabs and will probably be parted out. The PHL, and CLT hubs work best for AMR, and the LUV get the S-Curve benefit of PHX. I can see us getting some of the WB jets, and the B6 terminal in JFK if we see a three-way tie up.

I for the life of me cannot see getting DOT or DOJ approval for B6. I can see us buying parts of a tie up with AMR, and parts of LCC. If they do go for it, we will go for their parts, and then for AS. HI's stock will get hit, and make them a even larger buyout target.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate
You suggest recalling reps, but suggesting a recall of the chairman is juvenile? Fact is, as a lot of people see it Moak and his descendants, heirs and supporters are responsible for the DPA phenom. DPA is a bad idea. Changing your union leadership if it's not delivering what the pilots are asking for is not.
Sounds like a plausible idea, but no one shows up to an LEC meeting so how would anyone recall anybody? People think that they can get change with a "Forever" stamp, when what is required is for us to all show up, demand our direction be followed, or shut up and color in between the lines. Since no one is showing up, it gives the appearance that people are satisfied, which by default is wrong. Over 25% of this group has sent in a DPA card, and that should be message enough that the silent majority does not think, nor act the way most assumed they did.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
LCC is up for grabs and will probably be parted out. The PHL, and CLT hubs work best for AMR, and the LUV get the S-Curve benefit of PHX. I can see us getting some of the WB jets, and the B6 terminal in JFK if we see a three-way tie up.

I for the life of me cannot see getting DOT or DOJ approval for B6. I can see us buying parts of a tie up with AMR, and parts of LCC. If they do go for it, we will go for their parts, and then for AS. HI's stock will get hit, and make them a even larger buyout target.
I too cannot see LaHood & the gang or the DOJ giving the nod for a B6 marriage, but it is way less toxic then UsAir & way less expensive then AS. Not sure how it'll work, but I just can't believe further consolidation isn't on the way.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Ok reserve gurus. Tomorrow is my seventh day in a stretch of 12 or so. Scheduling just called and put me into rest from midnight tonight until midnight tomorrow night (all day the 27th). What exactly are my obligations? Do I have to check my schedule after 3 PM? Do I have to acknowledge anything prior to the end of my rest period? When is the earliest trip report of short call I can be assigned? Is it 0001 on the 28th or noon on the 28th?

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I know that ACL has already responded to this but since I have dealt with this a couple of times, I thought I would pass along my experience. CS has a difficult time dealing with these rest days. Sometimes they don't even track them well. One month I had 2 rest days scheduled only 2 days apart because they didn't document something about the first one.

As far as obligations, there is no obligation to answer the phone, check the computer or otherwise acknowledge CS DURING the rest. What they can assign depends on when they do it. If they wanted to assign something that starts immediately following your rest, they would have to put it on your schedule BEFORE your rest starts. With rest starting at midnight that is unlikely. Since your rest is midnight to midnight, everything is based on what they could do to you on your last day off before RES. Nothing can be assigned to you to start before 0500 after your rest. If anything is assigned after 1500 the day of your rest, it must not start before Noon. If you check your schedule after 1500 on the day of rest and nothing shows up, you know that you will have no obligations before Noon.

If my memory is incorrect WRT this, my apologies.
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I hope the same for certain people in our union positions.
Me too.....
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