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Old 07-26-2011, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Why would anyone support a PAC that is not even discussing the slot swap issue as a PAC consideration? Why would anyone support a PAC that walks away from the 1500 hour rule, and caves in on FT/DT?

The ALPA-PAC is all about electing far-left politicians. That's not an appropriate function of an Airline Pilot's union.

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Wrong again Carl, unless you consider Senator Orin Hatch (R) from Utah a far left-politician. ALPA-PAC supports candidates based not on their party affiliation, but rather on their position on issues important to professional pilots. This year the ALPA-PAC Steering Committee posted the following with regards to who they will support.

"The Steering Committee distributes ALPA-PAC support based solely on a candidate’s position on issues that directly affect airline pilots. Recent examples of such issues include:
  • airport access (CrewPASS),
  • oil prices,
  • bankruptcy reform,
  • the FFDO program,
  • pensions issues,
  • cabotage and foreign control,
  • family and medical leave for flight crews,
  • a wide variety of specific safety issues.
Only after carefully reviewing the voting records and political positions of incumbents or interviewing candidates on issues of direct interest to ALPA is a determination made as to who will most likely support airline pilots. These are the candidates who receive contributions from ALPA-PAC. All ALPA-PAC recipients have either demonstrated their support for ALPA’s position on key legislative issues or it is believed they will be valuable friends to ALPA on future initiatives
ALPA-PAC is one of the most bipartisan labor PACs in Washington, DC, supporting candidates without regard to party affiliation. ALPA-PAC is the only way that ALPA national participates directly in the federal election process; ALPA national does not use any member dues money for this purpose."
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Reroute
Wrong again Carl, unless you consider Senator Orin Hatch (R) from Utah a far left-politician. ALPA-PAC supports candidates based not on their party affiliation, but rather on their position on issues important to professional pilots. This year the ALPA-PAC Steering Committee posted the following with regards to who they will support.

"The Steering Committee distributes ALPA-PAC support based solely on a candidate’s position on issues that directly affect airline pilots. Recent examples of such issues include:
  • airport access (CrewPASS),
  • oil prices,
  • bankruptcy reform,
  • the FFDO program,
  • pensions issues,
  • cabotage and foreign control,
  • family and medical leave for flight crews,
  • a wide variety of specific safety issues.
Only after carefully reviewing the voting records and political positions of incumbents or interviewing candidates on issues of direct interest to ALPA is a determination made as to who will most likely support airline pilots. These are the candidates who receive contributions from ALPA-PAC. All ALPA-PAC recipients have either demonstrated their support for ALPA’s position on key legislative issues or it is believed they will be valuable friends to ALPA on future initiatives
ALPA-PAC is one of the most bipartisan labor PACs in Washington, DC, supporting candidates without regard to party affiliation. ALPA-PAC is the only way that ALPA national participates directly in the federal election process; ALPA national does not use any member dues money for this purpose."
Dear Reroute:

Is this the same kind of thing as ALPA publishing that they helped the TWA pilots to the best of their ability? Or publishing that they've never destroyed documents or computer hard drives? Or publishing that they are utterly opposed to age 65? Or publishing they are utterly committed to the 1500 hour rule? Or publishing they are utterly committed to not caving in on FT/DT?

This statement about what the ALPA-PAC does is pure BS like the many examples of BS I've listed above. ALPA's affiliation with the AFL-CIO has forced us to back some of the most far left politicians we have in the nation. The excuse for it is that these same politicians back an ALPA interest.

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Old 07-26-2011, 03:50 PM
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Flying with a captain who had an LEC rep on the jumpseat about a month ago. Told him that basically they have been working on an upcoming merger for a while. Captains impression was this wasn't just for due diligence but rather working on the details of it.Asked if it was Alaska or Hawaiian, rep said neither but would not say who....place your bets....who and when??!! And NO, I cant say who the rep was.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Enemyofthestate
I'd be reassured if I thought the Reps actually controlled the union. Fact is this current union is run by the exact same inner circle as under Moak, with now his protege as chairman, and half the Reps doing what they are instructed by the above. Do you really expect any different result? If scope was not sacrosanct under Moak it's not now.
If your rep is that weak, recall him. I'm confident mine think for themselves, and aren't under the influence of the Moak mind meld...
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
Flying with a captain who had an LEC rep on the jumpseat about a month ago. Told him that basically they have been working on an upcoming merger for a while. Captains impression was this wasn't just for due diligence but rather working on the details of it.Asked if it was Alaska or Hawaiian, rep said neither but would not say who....place your bets....who and when??!! And NO, I cant say who the rep was.
Rep from which LEC?
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
The account balance we have now and will continue to amass belongs to Delta pilots...not ALPA. ALPA cannot take that money from Delta pilots if we were to vote in an in-house union.
Nice rumor, but do you have any source to back that up?

That money was contributed via ALPA dues, and I've never heard of dues money being refunded to a group that left ALPA.

Have you?
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
Flying with a captain who had an LEC rep on the jumpseat about a month ago. Told him that basically they have been working on an upcoming merger for a while. Captains impression was this wasn't just for due diligence but rather working on the details of it.Asked if it was Alaska or Hawaiian, rep said neither but would not say who....place your bets....who and when??!! And NO, I cant say who the rep is.
I have to wave THE BIG BS FLAG on this.

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Old 07-26-2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Rep from which LEC?
In deference to the captain, I can't say.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
I have to wave THE BIG BS FLAG on this.
Wave away.

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Old 07-26-2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
For those of you wondering if it is possible to have underboob on a painted on swimsuit, here is your answer:



and one more for bonus:

I see a vertical line on the second picture and few bumps (naughty naughty)

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