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Old 07-26-2011, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I keep telling my Reps that as well. I keep harping on the fact that, in reality no one really is grasping how sick and tired our pilots are about the way things are going. There is a basic lack of trust of all parties involved. One misstep, and this powder keg will go up.
I agree that our guys are sick and tired, of being sick and tired. I am saddened at the number of folks who rabidly pursue flying on days off at straight pay. I certainly understand the realities of living on post-bankruptcy pay, but after awhile the company will plan, man, and budget extra flying at straight pay.

It is important to be rested, refreshed, and renewed for this profession.....without these elements we will not live to enjoy retirement for very long. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

If we live one seat below what we can hold, it reduces the necessity to chase flying on days off......in the meantime, it will help for C2012, for the company to man properly and pay a penalty for relying on day off flying to operate the system.......I realize this is a very simplistic view to a complex issue. How about the old NW system of 150-200% for all flying over X credit hours, or day off flying.....at least something like that.

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Old 07-26-2011, 08:36 AM
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Reroute, I'd be surprised if the rumor is true, I'm more enraged by the 777 A's willingness to go along with it if asked or to think on our behalf - "you'd fly that in the left seat for less than you're making in the right seat here!" Um. With the PWA already settled, none of your business what I fly or where I chose to be based.

I have my complaints about ALPA and on scope but I've also seen enough to know ALPA won't give up a headcount.

People demand to have the right to trip park, or fly over their vacations or increase the min reserve from 70 to 78 or what have you, all of which would decrease the number of required pilots imho.

DALPA seems to put their foot down on that stuff and that should be applauded... and that better never change.

My other complaints however will continue until DALPA leaves ALPA, I can elect my MEC Chairman, we set out on a course for SWA pay and scope plus, and some other stuff.
I agree 100% but the problem is DPA is not ready to deliver. Timing is just too tight. I feel everyone at DPA is honest and committed to getting it done, but Management will only use DPA to divide our group. Think of the power management will have when we threaten to strike and they know we have no strike fund? These and a few more critical mass issues are important when less than a year from openers..

My DPA card is in because the threat to ALPA to act is the best we can do until 1/1/2013...
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Question: Can a USAirways wholly-owned regional (psa/pdt) fly for DAL now given the Frontier/RAH precedent?

It would seem to be the exact same case as psa/pdt are under the umbrella of a holding corp "us airways group", and they are looking for work for some of their 70 seat RJs.
According to ALPA's lawyers they can fly for DAL as long as they are on a separate certificate from USAir. Ownership and control doesn't matter.
We're all one happy "SkyTeam".
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
According to ALPA's lawyers they can fly for DAL as long as they are on a separate certificate from USAir. Ownership and control doesn't matter.
We're all one happy "SkyTeam".
Uhhh Uhhhhh. That was cool (giggle giggle), you said,"ALPA's lawyers".

Seems like, Everything that benefits the company is good with Alpa's lawyers. I wonder which lawyers drafted the CBA?

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Old 07-26-2011, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
I agree 100% but the problem is DPA is not ready to deliver. ........
Wrong, very wrong.

Originally Posted by FIIGMO
..... Timing is just too tight. .......
No it is not.


Originally Posted by FIIGMO
....... I feel everyone at DPA is honest and committed to getting it done, but Management will only use DPA to divide our group....
Yes they are and there is not a thing management can do about it.


Originally Posted by FIIGMO
......My DPA card is in .........
Thank you, have faith brother, we will get this done and it will be for the better for all DAL pilots.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ripn6
I had a 777 Capt. in the jumpseat last week. He was talking about the 100 seater announcement and that ALPA didn't know what they were going to do about them. I said, "what do you mean." He said, "Would you fly Captain on it for less that your making in the right seat of the 320?" I said "We have 100 seat pay rates. It's called a DC-9 and it's more than I make, are you suggesting we give that flying away to get pay raises?" He said, "Well, no, but ALPA doesn't know what they're going to do." I said, "They better know what they're going to do or they won't be around very much longer." It was clear the he and I had a different Idea of "what to do" about the 100 seater.


Lets just hope that "CAPT Clueless" is not the norm. I also don't know what "ALPA didn't know what they were going to do about them" means. Regarding taking a pay cut, I guess he is not familiar with our current narrow-body FO rates. I cant really fault him on that (although it is disappointing) but hopefully you were able to enlighten him.


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Old 07-26-2011, 10:00 AM
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Ok reserve gurus. Tomorrow is my seventh day in a stretch of 12 or so. Scheduling just called and put me into rest from midnight tonight until midnight tomorrow night (all day the 27th). What exactly are my obligations? Do I have to check my schedule after 3 PM? Do I have to acknowledge anything prior to the end of my rest period? When is the earliest trip report of short call I can be assigned? Is it 0001 on the 28th or noon on the 28th?

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Old 07-26-2011, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Lets just hope that "CAPT Clueless" is not the norm. I also don't know what "ALPA didn't know what they were going to do about them" means. Regarding taking a pay cut, I guess he is not familiar with our current narrow-body FO rates. I cant really fault him on that (although it is disappointing) but hopefully you were able to enlighten him.


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Scoop,

I think there are many more Captain Cluelesses than you think. Its sad, but understandable (sort of): these guys do not want to ruffle any feathers and jeopardize their income and lifestyles so close to retirement. You see, they are at the top of the pyramid and they like it up there. Why ruin that?

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Old 07-26-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
Ok reserve gurus. Tomorrow is my seventh day in a stretch of 12 or so. Scheduling just called and put me into rest from midnight tonight until midnight tomorrow night (all day the 27th). What exactly are my obligations? Do I have to check my schedule after 3 PM? Do I have to acknowledge anything prior to the end of my rest period? When is the earliest trip report of short call I can be assigned? Is it 0001 on the 28th or noon on the 28th?

Thanks.
It is not an off day, it is 24 hrs free from obligation. They can and will if needed, assign you a trip during that period, they can assign SC. In my experience they will call you and notify you of it, but I would check my schedule just to be sure.

Without looking it up, I beleive the earliest they can assign something is three hrs after your rest ends. They would have to assign domestic SC at least 10 hrs prior to the start time of that SC period though. As for a trip, they can assign you anything during your rest period as long as you are legal to start the trip; basically no break in rest, or adding to the rest period so that you are legal under Whitlow. This does not apply for Flag Dispatched flights.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:16 AM
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Here is another scheduling issue. They just called my cell phone twice and neither time did they leave a message. I'm sitting next to my home phone and it hasn't made a sound. No message and no call to my main contact number to me means they really don't need me. I'd love to have a trip on my schedule that I wasn't properly notified about. Unfortunately I will take the darn high road and look at my schedule. If there is a trip I will be filling out an FCR and making some phone calls. Anyone know who I need to call and email for schedulings screw up?? I am required to do my job correctly every day on every flight. Why can't scheduling do theirs??
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