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07-25-2011, 01:17 PM

#72111

PilotFrog

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Originally Posted by Brocc15

Can someone please PM me the name of our ALPA jumpseat guy, and email address? Thanks. Was denied jumpseat by gate (not crew) for international flight on continental, but our emails from ALPA said that we are allowed that now. Everyone from the Captain to gate agents to operations to dispatch got involved and the final word was no, I can't occupy the jumpseat! Does anyone have any info on why this would be? A deadheading pilot for continental was very nice and took the JS so I could get on, but if it weren't for him I would have been stranded in a foreign country. Ugh.

Same thing happened to me on American. If you find out something can you PM me?

07-25-2011, 01:19 PM

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Boomer

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I'm discouraged by the fact that you may be a CA, as you seem to encourage rushing.

I believe Paxhauler got to start over someplace new two years ago when Mesa/Freedom lost the DCI flying. Don't recall where but I'd imagine he's still right seat.

Unless there are two Paxhaulers (and Spa(c)klers, and TSquares, etc).

07-25-2011, 01:23 PM

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Columbia

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Quick question for anyone (and I'm sure this is hidden somewhere that is accessible to the masses but I'm not sure where) how many people can training handle in a year? Given the normal mix of initials, CQ or requal?

I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?

Not just 600-700 new hires a year, but also all the upgrades and people moving between aircraft as well as recurrents. Can they manage 4,000 events a year?

07-25-2011, 01:35 PM

#72114

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Originally Posted by Columbia

Not just 600-700 new hires a year, but also all the upgrades and people moving between aircraft as well as recurrents. Can they manage 4,000 events a year?

They hired 90 per month through most of the late '80s til Jan '92.

They can flex up pretty easily if they use contract simulators.
We had facilities at Greenbriar. They used to send lots of guys to Miami all the time, etc. There are sims out there.
More expensive, but definitely an option if required.

07-25-2011, 01:45 PM

#72115

Doug Masters

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Current training limits us to about 600 a year, but I am guessing that they could slam 800 a year though if they had one big bid with openings everywhere and just put new hires where they needed them. Of course, the smart thing to do would be to preemptively hire.

RA to DALPA (hypothetically): "Well boys we can't train enough pilots to grow the airline and replace the retiring guys. We need scope relief on 100 seaters to grow the airline. Here's a 20% pay increase. Sign off on it or we'll lose market share."

Thoughts?

07-25-2011, 01:49 PM

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And if RA said that we should turn around and say 4-5 more sims is probably less than a 20% raise.

07-25-2011, 02:00 PM

#72117

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

No thanks, sir. How about we hire executives that can actually run an airline instead. It was nice of you to offer 20% higher than SWA parity, but don't forget parity comes with scope too. 20% is barely 2 years worth of compounded inflation anyway, so whatevs dood.

07-25-2011, 02:00 PM

#72118

Bucking Bar

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

... or we'll lose market share."

Thoughts?

We'll not lose market share. You'll lose market share and I'll grow my market share.

Since 2000, they've decreased our market share as Delta pilots by nearly 50% while increasing Delta's by about 20%.

With scope we share a common interest.

Without scope, we don't.

07-25-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

We'll not lose market share. You'll lose market share and I'll grow my market share.

Since 2000, they've decreased our market share as Delta pilots by nearly 50% while increasing Delta's by about 20%.

With scope we share a common interest. Without scope, we don't.

Win.

No scope relief.

Mandatory scope recapture to some significant degree, domestic, RJ and international, or don't even bother printing Section 3 because it is irrelevant.