Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-25-2011, 11:39 AM
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you gave me an idea, maybe Boeing can make it a 72RE and put 2 GTFs on the tail...then they could actually put the 81" fan on it and not that itty-bitty 70" LEAP-X one with a flat spot and the low-rider look! 
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George
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07-25-2011, 11:46 AM
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Not to be a downer, but I doubt they'll hire this year.
Back in April or May management announced a planned 4% capacity pulldown for the 3rd/4th quarter compared to last year. That's more than enough to absorb the 164 guys that are retiring during the rest of the year. My bet is that they won't hire until fall 2012 unless next summer's block hours are planned way up. If the economy doesn't puke and there aren't any legislative/ownership/cabotage surprises, they'll need to hire every year after that as age 65 kicks in.
Back in April or May management announced a planned 4% capacity pulldown for the 3rd/4th quarter compared to last year. That's more than enough to absorb the 164 guys that are retiring during the rest of the year. My bet is that they won't hire until fall 2012 unless next summer's block hours are planned way up. If the economy doesn't puke and there aren't any legislative/ownership/cabotage surprises, they'll need to hire every year after that as age 65 kicks in.
I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?
07-25-2011, 11:47 AM
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Not to be a downer, but I doubt they'll hire this year.
Back in April or May management announced a planned 4% capacity pulldown for the 3rd/4th quarter compared to last year. That's more than enough to absorb the 164 guys that are retiring during the rest of the year. My bet is that they won't hire until fall 2012 unless next summer's block hours are planned way up. If the economy doesn't puke and there aren't any legislative/ownership/cabotage surprises, they'll need to hire every year after that as age 65 kicks in.
Back in April or May management announced a planned 4% capacity pulldown for the 3rd/4th quarter compared to last year. That's more than enough to absorb the 164 guys that are retiring during the rest of the year. My bet is that they won't hire until fall 2012 unless next summer's block hours are planned way up. If the economy doesn't puke and there aren't any legislative/ownership/cabotage surprises, they'll need to hire every year after that as age 65 kicks in.
1. LGA slot swap
2. Aircraft orders (though this will be down the line)
3. New FAA crew rest guidelines
4. Age 65 guys
The early outs could be absorbed by the capacity pull down but at some point we're going to need to get ahead-of-the-ball for some of these other reasons. If Delta waits until the 65ers are forced out training would be full for quite sometime just with new hires. Seems like they'd have to start hiring early and have the guys on the payroll so when the big numbers start falling we're not starting from scratch.
Am I missing something?
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07-25-2011, 11:53 AM
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Quick question for anyone (and I'm sure this is hidden somewhere that is accessible to the masses but I'm not sure where) how many people can training handle in a year? Given the normal mix of initials, CQ or requal?
I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?
I'd be curious to know if they truly cannot handle the retirement binge coming (in 2017?) I wonder how much they'd have to increase early outs between now and then to flatten things out?
07-25-2011, 11:56 AM
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Don't forget the $200m/wk that the gov't just gave up in taxes. All of the legacies have already increased their ticket prices to match the original prices, and that money is extra revenue that will provide an industry-wide cash infusion. My money is on the gov't stalling the FAA-reauth until the debt ceiling is solved, and even if it is only a week it should easily provide DAL with an extra $20-40m in revenues per week that they would not have had otherwise. Thats 400+ new-hire pilots annual wages per week right there, a nice bonus if you were thinking about getting ahead of the hiring curve.
07-25-2011, 12:01 PM
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07-25-2011, 12:06 PM
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07-25-2011, 12:17 PM
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I agree with your statement, my only point is, if we allow them latitude on the PWA, they will take it, and over time that latitude can become practice. They are over worked, understaffed, and working on a vertical learning curve up there. Unless someone tells them the correct way, they will learn the wrong way, and then never know how to actually perform the job as described.
I too will acknowledge a assignment prior to my window, but only if it works to my favor, I have seen many trips removed and I get reassigned something else, so sometimes it pays to be patient.
I too will acknowledge a assignment prior to my window, but only if it works to my favor, I have seen many trips removed and I get reassigned something else, so sometimes it pays to be patient.
I let the F/O rep know everything that transpired so hopefully this can get highlighted!
07-25-2011, 12:30 PM
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07-25-2011, 12:36 PM
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DAL's going to have to give more incentives to high seniority pilots to retire early & smooth out the training curve. In 2017 & later we'll have >800 pilots/year retiring, exceeding current training capacity.
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