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Old 07-20-2011, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver
Stock is in the toilet today! Almost 6% down, $7.94.
Damn that George Bush....
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:06 AM
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Awesome FTB!

Not looking forward to my return to reserve this fall.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
So much for operation visine....

...as the fighter guys would say... SHACK!
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
100% Leine, cost of sick usage is not our problem. In fact, I truly don't mind the usage/accrual method; its the absurdly low amount of time we have to start with that I have issues with.


I do! And no I'm not gaming the system.

By federal law we are required to be 100% fit for duty, there should not be a limit on our usage of sick time, and nor should there be a limit on usage per year......
Uh.... really? So you want to make it possible for someone who WOULD game the system to call in sick and get paid every single trip? Really? Unless there is some kind of gestapo oversight to prevent this very thing, there WILL be some guys (and more than a few...) that will do this. I am not a fan of the current system, but your idea is over the top the other way. There has to be a happy medium. Maybe an oversight board that looks at individual cases like a broken leg that uses all but a few hours of that time... obviously that is a guy not gaming the system.. but a guy that gets sick every quarter on that 40 hour 6 day trip... THAT's a different animal. THOSE guys should be hammered.. sorry.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Another big loss on "outsourced" flying, although this is own own subsidiary, so the losses are all ours.Now, lets see how much the Airport Board flips the property to the TSA for.

New on the HLN Channel, "flip this Airline Headquarters."

But this should be viewed for what it is, an ABSOLUTE STRATEGIC FAILURE by Delta management. They paid $2,500,000,000.00 for Comair, took a $600,000,000 strike, then got mad about that and decided to outsource their own subsidiary's work, destroying the value of their own asset. The real cost of this mismanagement is over 10 billion when the cost of the airplanes are included. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

How different would our contract be if we had $10 billion sitting in the bank?

For you senior guys that think "scope does not matter" what about the idiotic things our management does to take advantage of what we allow? Our airline works harder at trying to figure out how not to fly, than it does running a good operation. The result is the loss of billions.
OK.. I'm outraged... now, what have I accomplished?
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:29 AM
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God I hate reserve guys who put in Yellow slips. Not really but a nice fat trip that I thought would be GS went to a YS.

On another note. How come we never ask to compare our salary with that of someone in management. I am sure they all took a big pay cut in bankruptcy and all. I would like to know how much of their salary has been brought back up to 2003 wages. Did they take a 40% pay cut. Have they been restored? I remember someone saying that Tilton said pilots would never make what they were making in 2001 but his pay is quite a bit more than the CEO was making in 2001.
I also want it to be in comparison with someone at the company that has similar responsibilities. Who at the company makes about the same as a Capt did in 2003 and what are they making now. Not pilots in management, but management professionals with their MBAs.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Invest in that asset, and guess what, your business gets you a return that cannot be measured on a balance sheet, a 10K report, or a on-time metric.
That is precisely why it is a common problem in most big business in the USA... is it unquantifiable. If the bean counters could put a number with it, they would be falling all over themselves to be nice to the employees.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I have not tried, I just use my I-pad. Honestly I try to spend as little time as possible in the crew rooms anyway.

Well that was almost helpful.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
OK.. I'm outraged... now, what have I accomplished?
You lie. You're not outraged...
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:33 AM
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Well, maybe now?



How about now?



How about now?



Show that outrage T.
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