Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-18-2011, 11:07 AM
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The institutional investors who "saved" Delta from the waiting arms of US Air are deeply underwater and there is pressure on Delta management to "do something." Since this is not an operationally driven decision, the results are unpredictable.
IMHO capacity restraint is not only boring to a growth oriented market, it just does not encourage investors to buy into an ever shrinking Company. Richard Anderson's conservative course may be best, but it is not sexy. Ceding market share is universally unattractive & makes all the analysts charts point the wrong direction.
Bottom line, it would behoove us to find a way to perform our own flying. We need a competitive "win." Our best move would be to make Alaska exercise capacity restraint.
07-18-2011, 11:08 AM
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They're saying 165 is the final tally for early outs.
07-18-2011, 11:27 AM
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07-18-2011, 11:28 AM
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Thankfully I haven't had any recent issues with the schedulers, however I did have an issue with a tracker a couple weeks ago. I should have gone to the CP after this, but I have very little motivation to do stuff with the company on my days off. Long story short, we had a 1pm or so eastern time report and we incurred an ever lengthening mx delay before PHX-DTW. They had an original plan that would get us into DTW at 0200, which was ok, but then the FA's timed out. They came up with a new plan that would get us into DTW at best case scenario (always) 0430. That was within a few minutes of max legal, but they didn't care.
Since it had turned into a redeye without redeye rest, we refused it for obvious reasons. I got a call from a crew tracker doing what was apparently trying to divide me from the captain and pressure me into operating the flight. I guess they forget that the regionals teach you how to emphatically say no.
Here's the best part, the tracker said to me "So are you telling me that you reported for today unable to fulfill your obligations in the contract?"
Cue blood boiling.
I paused for a moment so I didn't say anything too ridiculous, and queried him "Tell me something, if something is legal, does that make it safe?"
The answer was the wrong answer... Be very careful with these types.
Since it had turned into a redeye without redeye rest, we refused it for obvious reasons. I got a call from a crew tracker doing what was apparently trying to divide me from the captain and pressure me into operating the flight. I guess they forget that the regionals teach you how to emphatically say no.
Here's the best part, the tracker said to me "So are you telling me that you reported for today unable to fulfill your obligations in the contract?"
Cue blood boiling.
I paused for a moment so I didn't say anything too ridiculous, and queried him "Tell me something, if something is legal, does that make it safe?"
The answer was the wrong answer... Be very careful with these types.
07-18-2011, 11:30 AM
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But yep... 165 is what he posted on the forum. I believe he also said there will be a breakdown forthcoming of seniority, retirement dates, etc.
07-18-2011, 11:41 AM
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07-18-2011, 11:49 AM
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Yes. Be very careful. I had a very disappointing encounter with crew scheduling a few weeks ago. They were trying to play "gotcha" when I was clearly trying to help them out and do the right thing. Sadly, it appears to be a different mentality in crew scheduling these days. Be careful out there.
One of the schedulers likes to curse and make very provocative statements. I simply wont talk to her and dawg gone'it, my cellphone always drops her calls. Going to have to have that thing checked ... . My keyboard also shorts out and puts APD days and pay back days in the middle of 9 days of availability. Don't know why that happens.
Delta is a great place to work. Even more so, if once you learn the rule that First Officers can exist quite happily while only conversing with those who either feed them, or who hold a valid ATP Certificate. Let the Captain deal with the bufoonery.
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07-18-2011, 12:39 PM
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I thought we were supposed to report earnings today?
07-18-2011, 12:48 PM
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JPMorgan says July 27. Here's their calendar.
July 28: SAVE Earnings Release and Conference Call
July 20:
AMR Earnings Release and Conference Call
July 20:
ATA Passenger Revenue Report to be released
July 21:
UAL, ALK, LCC Earnings Release and Conference Call
July 25 - August 5:
ATA Passenger Traffic Report to be released
July 26:
JBLU, HA Earnings Release and Conference Call
July 27:
DAL Earnings Release and Conference Call
July 28: SAVE Earnings Release and Conference Call
07-18-2011, 01:05 PM
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You have better data. I was just going off what a LCA told me the final numbers they were told this last weekend. 165 is still significant. Also, they told me that 700 FA's took the early out as well.
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