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Old 07-14-2011, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.

Apparently the instructor schedulers are good at teaching the newbies how to nail a pilot for any infraction they can, but not so good at teaching them how to give out YS & GS correctly. OK, so that's a bit sarcastic, but I have heard and personally experienced schedulers assigning YS and GS trips incorrectly, and when called on it you can bet you're going to get put on hold for 10 to 15 minutes, only to get a lame excuse, or a "call back later."

Dispensing chaff and flares for preemptive self defense: I typically encounter very courteous and friendly schedulers. The ones I speak of above are the exception. Threat down.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
It only matters if you give a sh!t about their letters, I do not. I'll continue to be responsible. If I need the policy, I'll use it. If I do it 3 times in one year and they tell me I lose it for a year, I'll say Great! I'll go back to the old policy. No stress whatsoever.

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Most brilliant post today!!
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Can someone explain why we are all spun up over Republic Air Lines Holdings? If they did not perform the flying some other third party vendor would fill the breach. The flying would not come back to us. We dorked that up when we divested Compass.

If it were up to me, I'd rather change the agreement that is making Alaska the fastest growing Air Carrier on our Continent.

The most important next step is to get our MEC on board with the idea that Delta pilots can operate the E-Jet TYPE, to get our group on board with Delta pilots performing Delta flying (not just the flying that requires 767's or larger).

Unless we "own" the flying, what is the point?

This is a sincere question, maybe one of you can 'splain it.
Because if RAH went away it would be good for the entire industry. We are subsidizing RAH, and therefore helping as a company a direct fare and yield slashing competitor seat dumping across the nation as it grows and orders tons of new planes. I would rather hire another ACMI air group to do it than RAH (although us getting it back next contract would be preferable).
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
My point was that individual Pilots at both companies can be way above and below the norm. What if you take a DAL Pilot who does a few Green-slips a year. He doesn't work a lot of days, and his pay might make it look like we are all well compensated - which I don't believe we are.

I don't care what a SW pilot claims to make while riding the jumpseat. I just want a big pay increase. I do believe that we are currently under compensated.

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Either way, compare min guar vs min guar, or our ALV versus their ALV. Either way and they flat out smoke us with extreme prejudice. FTB has rocked out with his Excel out multiple times with the digits. They flat out face palm us in pay.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You ask false questions that demand the impossible. Do you not think others notice? DPA does not currently represent the pilots of Delta. Therefore, DPA can't prove ANYTHING to you through definitive action on behalf of Delta pilots. It's impossible.

Your other demand that DPA supporters work within ALPA to change ALPA fails to understand that we have no interest in wasting our energies. You believe in ALPA, so you don't understand how anyone could think of it as wasted energy. I understand that. We don't agree. Most DPA supporters are completely finished with ALPA and see it as totally broken, corrupt, and now guilty of selling out its own members. I want my energies totally devoted to decertifying ALPA.

Again, I don't know if you really want to understand or just ask your rhetorical questions. But I've given you the answer.

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I ask legitimate questions. If you (and the DPA bretheren) feel the SWAPA C&BL are so superior, get you and your DPA gang together and send up a resolution from multiple LEC's that seeks to implement one or two aspects of the apparently "oh-so-superior" SWAPA C&BL.

If a "DPA supporter" backed group can't muster enough horsepower to even accomplish a simple "democratic function" within a representational structure, what on God's green earth makes you think that a "DPA organization" is able to ADMINSTER and OPERATE an entire representational labor organization.

You DPA'ers can't lose on doing something like this!!! If you are able to muster the troops to send up a resolution calling for a positive change on behalf of Delta Pilots, if it gets sent on and passed and implemented, YOU WIN! (and now you can claim to be affecting change that will HELP Delta pilots).

If it passes the LEC but gets whacked at the MEC level, NOW you have fodder for your campaign literature.

The only downside for DPA supporters is if the resolution gets rejected at the LEC level. That would show that the DPA supporting pilots in that domicile aren't necessarily willing to put there money where their mouth is......

What are they waiting for?


(As an aside, your "I know" response was well written. We are both right.....)
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:23 PM
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Here's the recap from SD's visit to the LAX lounge on Tuesday. Moderators (i.e, ACL and Johnso), if I've crossed the line anywhere, please feel free to edit/delete. I wasn't there, I was flying, but this was passed on:

Operations: Our operation is running much better this summer than last year. Many of the improvements made in maintenance (for example, more line maintenance stations) are the foundation of that improvement.

Financials: Our 2Q results should be out by July 27. It was a good quarter, despite challenges. We should post a profit of about $350 million. We are now projecting a full year profit of about $600-700 million. The lower results for the 2Q are due to 3 main challenges we faced: rapid run-up in fuel costs, the January ice storm in ATL, and the Japan earthquake.

Capacity Reductions: post-labor day draw down in capacity of about 4%.

More than 2,000 employees took advantage of the early out programs, among them 187 pilots.

JFK: facility construction is moving forward, slightly ahead of schedule. We’ll be dealing with the challenges of this construction for some time. When complete, this will present a much better customer experience in NY.

US Air Slot Swap. DOT looks like it will approve the deal as currently configured. DOJ is resisting. If approved we will see some schedule changes.

Tablet/EFB test. Going forward with research into avionics grade EFB. Will probably not be system wide if adopted, but implemented on certain fleets/new A/C. Tablet test going forward simultaneously.

D-0/A-0. This initiative is starting to show results. We were a bottom dweller last year, now upper middle of the pack.

MSP Training Center Closure - 18 to 24 months timeline. 9 devices (sims) have been identified for relocation and possibly a 10th.

June AE Award: 806 awards and will generate roughly 500 training events.

SOT and LOA #29: Effective in August PCS timeline changes. Instead of three runs per day will go to four per day at 0700, 1200, 1700 and 2200 ET. Also, same day/next day awards will consider all pilots who have submitted slip requests at the time of processing the award for a trip rather than only those who submitted by the PCS run deadlines. Also in August, travel to training will no longer be booked by the company and must be booked by the pilot. You should get a pop-up message in E-Crew/I-Crew reminding you to book travel.

Modification of the current reserve trip assignment process to consider seniority within the RAW score grouping system should be implemented starting with the February 2012 bid period.

Basing Issues: Crew resources is pretty happy with the current crew basings for most fleets. 767 to 7ER conversion in ATL on hold for the time being due to cost issues. 73N category is the most inefficient from a credit time perspective. Mid-term possibility of 73N in DTW. Mid-term possibility of 320 in NYC.

Attrition: 192 pilots put in for the early out programs, 5 have rescinded leaving 187 total at present. From June 1, 2010 to June 1, 2011, 92 pilots left the property, 69 were early retirements.

Post Labor day we will be reducing capacity a total of 4%

Domestic - down 1-3%
Atlantic - 10-12% (mainly driven by the economic conditions in Europe and over capacity)
Pacific - down 1-3%
Latin and South America - up 2 - 4%.

LAX - capacity is increasing. Wide body and regional increases.

LAX is a focus city. We have added many destinations in California (OAK, SMF and SFO) and the west (PHX) to feed our SYD, HND and NRT flights. Eventually, some if not all of these, may become mainline flights.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:45 PM
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Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway

767 bound for Amsterdam clipped an RJ. No injuries reported.

Check out the 4 photos.
Tore a winglet off the 767 and pretty much destroyed the rudder and horizontal stab on the RJ.

Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway - BostonHerald.com


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Old 07-14-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Apparently the instructor schedulers are good at teaching the newbies how to nail a pilot for any infraction they can, but not so good at teaching them how to give out YS & GS correctly. OK, so that's a bit sarcastic, but I have heard and personally experienced schedulers assigning YS and GS trips incorrectly, and when called on it you can bet you're going to get put on hold for 10 to 15 minutes, only to get a lame excuse, or a "call back later."

One could always file a grievance if they feel a GS/YS was awarded incorrectly.

Oh wait.

You would have to get DALPA to agree to pursue the grievance first. Never mind.
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Old 07-14-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I ask legitimate questions. If you (and the DPA bretheren) feel the SWAPA C&BL are so superior, get you and your DPA gang together and send up a resolution from multiple LEC's that seeks to implement one or two aspects of the apparently "oh-so-superior" SWAPA C&BL.
I'll only be responding to serious points from here on out.

Originally Posted by shiznit
If a "DPA supporter" backed group can't muster enough horsepower to even accomplish a simple "democratic function" within a representational structure, what on God's green earth makes you think that a "DPA organization" is able to ADMINSTER and OPERATE an entire representational labor organization.
It's not that we can't, it's that we choose not to. Rather, we choose to use ALL of our energies to begin an in-house union made up entirely of Delta pilots for the express purpose of representing ONLY Delta pilots.

I know you'd prefer nothing more than DPA supporters spending all their energies on the fool's errand of trying to fix ALPA through ALPA's "processes". Your angst is that we recognize this latest request of your ilk as the fool's errand that it is. That won't change. You should thank us for planning to have a union in place when ALPA bleeds out from its own self-inflicted wounds.

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Old 07-14-2011, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway

767 bound for Amsterdam clipped an RJ. No injuries reported.

Check out the 4 photos.
Tore a winglet off the 767 and pretty much destroyed the rudder and horizontal stab on the RJ.

Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway - BostonHerald.com

That sh!t will buff out -- Joe Dirt
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