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Old 07-14-2011, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
You do have priority on any DCI for passenger seats. The only seat(s) that each particular carrier has priority for are the jumpseats. DCI, mainline, other DCIs, OAL...
So when I travel as a nonrev on a Delta flight operated by Skywest, I have priority over any Skywest employee on that flight? Is this a recent change? I admit, it's been about a year and a half since I've been a regular commuter on DCI flights but I remember many a Skywest employee boarding before me. Maybe the agents in SLC didn't get the memo?

Edit: Ok, I looked it up - Skywest and ASA employees have priority over mainline employees on Skywest and ASA flights respectively. On other DCI flights we travel at the same priority code as their employees on their DCI flights. To me, neither of these policies are acceptable.

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:22 PM
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Delta Air Lines Inc. saw an uptick in passengers in April and carried more total system passengers than any other U.S. airline, the U.S. Department of Transportation 's Bureau of Transportation Statistics reported Thursday.
The Atlanta-based carrier had about 9.8 million passengers in April, up 3 percent from April 2010. Delta is the second busiets airline at Piedmont Triad International Airport, behind only US Airways.
U.S. airlines combined carried 60.5 million scheduled domestic and international passengers in April -- up 1.4 percent from April 2010. The April 2011 passenger total was also 1.7 percent above that of two years ago in April 2009 but remained 4.3 percent below the early recession level of April 2008, BTS noted.
Harstfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport was the busiest airport in April with 3.6 million passengers coming through -- up 1 percent over April 2010.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
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Maybe this is PM stuff, but is any of your Counsel talking about settlement expectations, or a time line? How about ALPA's ability to pay a judgement of the size anticipated in the Bensel litigation?
First off, the only counsel I represent is myself. And sometimes I want to fire my rep! ALPA's ability to pay the judgment will weigh heavily during the appeal of the upcoming judgment. ALPA may try to appeal the verdict itself, but they will fail. They would have to prove judicial misconduct to get an appeals court to overturn the verdict. But appeals courts DO look at whether or not the amount of the judgment will bankrupt the company who lost. Recall the tobacco industry's judgements of multi-billions that was reduced to just millions for the "injured" tobacco user.

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Talk about a conflict of interest. What about the legal fact that Bensel group needs ALPA to survive in order to get paid, while another client works to decertify ALPA, which will most likely result in the death of the defendant?
ALPA is dead anyway Bar. The TWA guys know this. The judgment will be large, but not quite enough to bankrupt ALPA. That final nail will be driven by its current members when they hear exactly what ALPA was found guilty of...and they will refuse to pay the extra assessment to cover it. My opinions of course.

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If all of this comes to pass ... Does the DPA have it's Constitution and Bylaws thought out yet? Are they on paper?
Don't know since I'm just a line pilot. But I have told them I hope we simply adopt SWAPA's Constitution and Bylaws.

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Just how strong a commitment on scope is the DPA willing to make?
It's the very foundation of the DPA. It's their number one goal without peer. Without ALPA's purposeful weakness on scope, there would be no DPA.

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It's nightmare scenario stuff we're seeing here. Figured DPA would have something to say given their proximity to events.
It's only a nightmare scenario to ALPA supporters. To DPA supporters, this was entirely predictable and one of the main reasons I've wanted a departure from ALPA. As I've said here for years now, ALPA has lost its way. They forgot about representing their own members. In their zeal to obtain the rights to all airline pilots, they lost sight of their fundamental mission. They'll now pay for that with their demise. Regards why DPA has nothing to say about it, I recall one military quote that says: "Never fight an enemy that is committing suicide."

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
So when I travel as a nonrev on a Delta flight operated by Skywest, I have priority over any Skywest employee on that flight? Is this a recent change? I admit, it's been about a year and a half since I've been a regular commuter on DCI flights but I remember many a Skywest employee boarding before me. Maybe the agents in SLC didn't get the memo?
Sorry, but on ASA and Skywest we travel as S3C. Their people are S3 and parents/retirees are S3B. We are behind all of them.

You know, we can't non-rev on charters (except when they're empty on repositioning) and aren't we in fact chartering these DCI planes to carry our passengers? Using that idea, we would essentially be part of the chartering group and should have higher priority on all seats. Think anyone would go for that??
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Bravo Sierra.

The scope language NWALPA had in place forbade the sale of Compass until a suitable DC-9 replacement for the mainline was flying (at least 10 hulls).

By removing that restriction, which did NOT occur until the JCBA, DALPA willingly facilitated the sale of Compass. We had language that directly controlled the disposition of that company...which is as close as "owning" the flying as you get without actually doing the flying, and it was given away by people who had NOT given up any negotiating capital to get it.


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Absolutely correct. What has ultimately happened to Compass once NWALPA became DAPLA would never have happened without DALPA forcing it to happen.

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Got a letter for using the commute policy. Word I got was 1st and 2nd offense you get a letter, 3rd you lose the privilege for a year.

Apparently it doesn't matter how many flights you attempted to use before you called in for pos space; you're still going to get a letter telling you in so many words to plan ahead and be responsible. Doesn't matter if a couple of the flights you had planned on using were canceled; you still get a strike for using the policy.

Call me naive, but I thought the policy was to help reduce the stress of commuting. Guess one needs to still plan on coming in 8 hours or so before their day starts.

They put a policy out there and then you get a letter for using it one time. Way to stress a guy for actually using the policy.
It only matters if you give a sh!t about their letters, I do not. I'll continue to be responsible. If I need the policy, I'll use it. If I do it 3 times in one year and they tell me I lose it for a year, I'll say Great! I'll go back to the old policy. No stress whatsoever.

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Old 07-14-2011, 02:28 PM
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How does re-route and green slip pay get paid out? I see it on my "time card" for the month...but...I don't see it in my mid-month pay check.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:20 PM
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Anyone at the "dog and pony show" in ATL domestic lounge today? Anything to report?

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Old 07-14-2011, 03:21 PM
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Quick question. Can we actually occupy the jumpseat on an international connection flight to Mexico. I didn't think so but I thought something was changing regarding international jumpseating. I may be trying to do it tomorrow. Thanks,

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Old 07-14-2011, 03:33 PM
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I jumpseated to Montreal on an ASA RJ that was full about five years ago. They didn't say anything or seem to care, but I think I had to pay some misc. fee to get out of Canada. Different destination and a long time ago though.
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