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Old 07-14-2011, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.
Any way you can elaborate on this a little without exposing yourself? Personally, I think the new deviate from deadhead policies are worthless. Scheduling can DH me on DCI to my base, but they can't send me home on DCI? They will PS to suit their needs, but there has to be seats available to suit my needs? If there are seats available, I can nonrev. This policy is worthless!
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:29 AM
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Any AVERAGE type SWA guy out there willing to blank out their personal data, scan and post their W2? Getting bored with all the 2nd and 3rd heard from so and so stories.
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Old 07-14-2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I don't care what a SW pilot claims to make while riding the jumpseat. I just want a big pay increase. I do believe that we are currently under compensated.

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Unfortunately, this has been an unpleasant reality for, well, going on a few years now....

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Old 07-14-2011, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
How in the world does scheduling give out a 3 day greenslip on the NY 7ER when there are 11 people on the availability list that have at least 3 days of availability?!
Because that list is worth nothing. It's one of the most useless and pointless things available to us. That list gives us NO guidance as to who is actually available for reserve. Some of those could be on FAR rest. Some could have a 30/7 conflict(Assuming it's a domestic trip). Some may be finishing a trip tonight.

Here's an idea. If someone ISN'T really available, how about we DON'T put them on the availability list.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Because that list is worth nothing. It's one of the most useless and pointless things available to us. That list gives us NO guidance as to who is actually available for reserve. Some of those could be on FAR rest. Some could have a 30/7 conflict(Assuming it's a domestic trip). Some may be finishing a trip tonight.

Here's an idea. If someone ISN'T really available, how about we DON'T put them on the availability list.
Actually, I'd like the list to show what everyone is doing. Just like it list short calls, I'd like to see rotation numbers next to those that are out on a trip or long call, rest, etc.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.
So I guess I should call and try to get their pay docked when they screw up from now on. OK.

Since they always follow the contract, I see no reason icrew shouldn't show us the same info they are looking at. I'm not really sure why guys on res are given so little info as to what is going on, except that it gives you the fear of the unknown.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
So a 3rd year DAL MD-88 FO on reserve can expect about $80,000 for a W-2, 50% less than the equivalent SWA FO. That is complete ^#{|>ŁĄ^}!

This next contract better be good. My DPA card has already been sent to light a fire under ALPA.
But Pineapple knows of a DAL FO who made $200K last year so in actuality, SWA is underpaid.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver
Any way you can elaborate on this a little without exposing yourself? Personally, I think the new deviate from deadhead policies are worthless. Scheduling can DH me on DCI to my base, but they can't send me home on DCI? They will PS to suit their needs, but there has to be seats available to suit my needs? If there are seats available, I can nonrev. This policy is worthless!
I agree, but for slightly different reasons - DCI flights arent just code shares on another airline - they are subcontracted Delta flights. In other words, Delta pays these airlines to fly these flights, tells them when to fly these flight, handles all reservations, and owns all of the seats. We, as Delta employees should therefore n bhave rights to seats these flights as if they were mainline. We should have priority over their employees on these flights and we should be able to book PS on these flights.

I'm not quite sure why Delta doesn't have this policy. I mean, what's a Skywest, or a Mesaba, or a Republic going to say - If you don't give our employees priority on DCI flights, were not going to fly for you? Yeah right.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
I agree, but for slightly different reasons - DCI flights arent just code shares on another airline - they are subcontracted Delta flights. In other words, Delta pays these airlines to fly these flights, tells them when to fly these flight, handles all reservations, and owns all of the seats. We, as Delta employees should therefore n bhave rights to seats these flights as if they were mainline. We should have priority over their employees on these flights and we should be able to book PS on these flights.

I'm not quite sure why Delta doesn't have this policy. I mean, what's a Skywest, or a Mesaba, or a Republic going to say - If you don't give our employees priority on DCI flights, were not going to fly for you? Yeah right.
You do have priority on any DCI for passenger seats. The only seat(s) that each particular carrier has priority for are the jumpseats. DCI, mainline, other DCIs, OAL...
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver
Actually, I'd like the list to show what everyone is doing. Just like it list short calls, I'd like to see rotation numbers next to those that are out on a trip or long call, rest, etc.
That would work for me too. What we have now is useless.
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