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Old 07-12-2011, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Great point. Never thought of if quite like that. Question is, what do we, as a pilot group, do about it?
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Where'd you get your hands on one of those? That'd be really, really cool!

Jealous!

Slow,

The AN-2 was cool. In fact there were many planes built by russia/ comecon that were cool. In the mid 90's, for example AN-2s could be purchased on the open market (depending on configuration - spray plane, pax plane, or jump plane) for 14-20K with zero time everything, fresh skin, and a fresh 1000hp radial engine.

The problem is that the FAA restricted many of the coolest purpose built russian planes as experimental (but further restricted them beyond that using a severity level system). Bottom line, they could only be taken off and landed at the same field - you couldnt go anywhere without a special permission letter.

If the AN2 had not been restricted, the cessna caravan would have died a quick death.

Speaking of Russian airplanes I should have bought/prices in the mid 90s:

Yak 3 - 20K in Romania
Mig 15 2 seater 35K in flying service in Albania
Yak 52 18K in Hungary fresh out of refit in Ukraine

Ferd's stock faux pas is minor in comparison - especially the yak 3
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:04 PM
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The minute the stock hits $23.50, Im SELLING!

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Old 07-12-2011, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
The minute the stock hits $23.50, Im SELLING!

TEN
Question for anyone holding DAL stock: If you had the amount of money in cash that you currently have in DAL stock, would you invest it in DAL stock? In other words, do you think DAL stock is the best performing investment you could have that money in?

BTW, I'm not trying to be critical. I'd just honestly like to know what you're thinking.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Question for anyone holding DAL stock: If you had the amount of money in cash that you currently have in DAL stock, would you invest it in DAL stock? In other words, do you think DAL stock is the best performing investment you could have that money in?

BTW, I'm not trying to be critical. I'd just honestly like to know what you're thinking.
This is especially disturbing given that fuel is off it's highs. If you believe in charts and trend data, DAL is trading at a support level and most likely to go up.

But, as pilots we need to be concerned about the Board's direction to Management about our limp share price. Every time they demand "something" be done, that something is reduced capacity, which more often than not served by airplanes we do not fly.

There is no easy answer. All we can do is the best we can do to encourage customers to return and spend money consuming the service that we offer.

If we want raises, airplanes, or promotions, we all have a common interest here. IMHO Delta is not getting the recognition it deserves. I am not sure our business model makes a long term buy, but in the short term we should be priced higher than we are. I'd say DAL is a solid short term (sell with the rie just before announcement of summer profits) trade.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:42 PM
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I think you're right about the 100 seat flying.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Man I hope so........I was going to sell it at $15 but my greedy side said wait till $18

I'm thinking it will come back in the fall.....we'll see
Hey Uncle Ferd,

I've had a sell order in for 2 years @ 15. It hit 14+ a few times, but never touched 15.......very shrewd on my part.

In sympathy,
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FedElta
Ok, according to the latest Alpa rag, Airtran stock gained 109.8% from May 2010 until May 2011. During that same period DAL stock declined 25.8%.

Hey ACL, what happened to your $20+ prediction for our merger to end all mergers ?

Regards......
I'm too nauseous to compute the current decline in value.

Sickly,
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Yeah I noticed that along with it disappearing from DeltaNet. Things that make you go hmmm?
On another note, just flew with my first FNWA brother...you guys aren't so bad
He was over 60 with no intention of leaving until 65
We did have two different whale drivers jump seating, one took the early leave. The other mentioned that out if the 190ish early out letters 34 (or did he say 44?) were 744 guys. That will create some movement!
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32 744A
11 744B

34 330A
8 330B

Don't know about other fleets
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
32 744A
11 744B

34 330A
8 330B

Don't know about other fleets
I know that Pravda said 192 applied for early out, but I heard it was 193 and that several of those have already rescinded their requests.
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