Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-08-2011, 04:37 PM
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07-08-2011, 05:11 PM
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Lets say that a regional finances these jets, and we fly em. That is a good first step but the union needs to have language written in to the PWA for the eventuality of this debt being sold to Air France or a competitor of DAL.
07-08-2011, 05:33 PM
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Yeah, some of the regoinals are even offering to cough up all of the cash or financing for the RFP jets.
Lets say that a regional finances these jets, and we fly em. That is a good first step but the union needs to have language written in to the PWA for the eventuality of this debt being sold to Air France or a competitor of DAL.
Lets say that a regional finances these jets, and we fly em. That is a good first step but the union needs to have language written in to the PWA for the eventuality of this debt being sold to Air France or a competitor of DAL.
07-08-2011, 06:33 PM
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Self proclaimed best in the business. Next section 1 should be a copy and paste of AirTran's new one.
07-08-2011, 06:34 PM
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07-08-2011, 06:38 PM
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07-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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It just won't happen without our consent. Unless the pilots on the E190 are Delta Mainline pilots on our list, with mainline wages, it most likely won't pass, even close. They can also give the rest of us Southwest 737 wages for our 737s and more for our larger planes at the same time, along with tighter scope on other parts of scope.
07-08-2011, 07:42 PM
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It's an average of 13.464 years for all of the international fleet and here is the break out of the individual fleet from the April 1, 2011 count:
747-400 . Fleet Total: 16 . Average Age 17.6
757-200 . Fleet Total: 33 . Average Age 14.1
767-300ER . Fleet Total: 58 . Average Age 15.3
767-400ER . Fleet Total: 21 . Average Age 10.3
777-200 . Fleet Total: 8 . Average Age 11.5
777-200LR . Fleet Total: 10 . Average Age 2.3
A330-200 . Fleet Total: 11 . Average Age 6.3
A330-300 . Fleet Total: 12. Average Age 5.9
Total 169
The 13.464 is running all of the aircraft listed in the international fleet dates vs todays date. It's not an average of the numbers above.
747-400 . Fleet Total: 16 . Average Age 17.6
757-200 . Fleet Total: 33 . Average Age 14.1
767-300ER . Fleet Total: 58 . Average Age 15.3
767-400ER . Fleet Total: 21 . Average Age 10.3
777-200 . Fleet Total: 8 . Average Age 11.5
777-200LR . Fleet Total: 10 . Average Age 2.3
A330-200 . Fleet Total: 11 . Average Age 6.3
A330-300 . Fleet Total: 12. Average Age 5.9
Total 169
The 13.464 is running all of the aircraft listed in the international fleet dates vs todays date. It's not an average of the numbers above.
I think you might have transposed the A333 number (21 vice 12) That would raise the total you have listed to 178 aircraft. The management slides that I was looking at are from a the investor relations site and a presentation to Wall Street that showed 175 airplanes. The current active fleet shows 169 with only 25 757ER. I don't know if that changes the age much, so take it FWIW.
The average age was a separate calculation and stays the same.
Now average age is probably not the best indication of what airplane falls off the cliff first at least within our fleet. Someone once mentioned we may have wasted cycles running these airplanes on domestic runs for years before GH turned them out over the ocean and that they could hit their cycle limits before their hour limits.
I really don't know if that is true or not.
07-08-2011, 08:02 PM
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Yep you're right. Read A330-300 fleet total 21. Total A330s are 32. Total ocean crossing fleet 178.
The average age was a separate calculation and stays the same.
Now average age is probably not the best indication of what airplane falls off the cliff first at least within our fleet. Someone once mentioned we may have wasted cycles running these airplanes on domestic runs for years before GH turned them out over the ocean and that they could hit their cycle limits before their hour limits.
I really don't know if that is true or not.
The average age was a separate calculation and stays the same.
Now average age is probably not the best indication of what airplane falls off the cliff first at least within our fleet. Someone once mentioned we may have wasted cycles running these airplanes on domestic runs for years before GH turned them out over the ocean and that they could hit their cycle limits before their hour limits.
I really don't know if that is true or not.
Just to echo what someone said earlier.. with our company's actions as of late, it sounds like the company is back to listening to the bean counters that don't know what they are doing instead of GH's brilliance. I am very very concerned with our tiptoeing around as of late just to jingle some keys in front of shareholders.
07-08-2011, 08:15 PM
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So I ended up an additional number farther back on the projected category list than I counted on the AE, and the projected list document on the alpa site agreed with my math. This is in a new category of only 51... how could that happen?
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