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06-29-2011, 02:44 PM
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ACL: when you get that business started...you got room for say...12000 employees for a few weeks?
06-29-2011, 02:59 PM
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06-29-2011, 04:08 PM
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06-29-2011, 04:14 PM
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Check out this news article from April 2001, from the UAL/CAL thread:
Delta Reaches Tentative Deal With Pilots On a Contract - NYTimes.com
Wow....you've got more authority than you know as a pilot group.
Delta Reaches Tentative Deal With Pilots On a Contract - NYTimes.com
Wow....you've got more authority than you know as a pilot group.
The only difference is the behavior of the NMB then as opposed to today. What a stark difference and NOBODY is talking about it.
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06-29-2011, 04:21 PM
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Uh, not exactly.
According to APC pay tables:
AirTran 737 rate:$163
Delta 737 rate: $174
Delta 747 rate: $217
AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that.
According to APC pay tables:
AirTran 737 rate:$163
Delta 737 rate: $174
Delta 747 rate: $217
AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that.
Carl
06-29-2011, 04:35 PM
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06-29-2011, 04:39 PM
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Uh, not exactly.
According to APC pay tables:
AirTran 737 rate:$163
Delta 737 rate: $174
Delta 747 rate: $217
AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that.
According to APC pay tables:
AirTran 737 rate:$163
Delta 737 rate: $174
Delta 747 rate: $217
AirTran is being operated as a wholly owned subsidiary (Guadalupe holdings). I expect that they will eventually come under the SWA contract/pay rates, but there hasn't been a JCBA negotiated. The history of negotiating that document isn't very pretty for major/national airlines. AAA/AWA have been at it since 2005. UAL/CAL have been at it since May of 2010. The SWA/AAI integration has and will continue to sorely test the "culture" just like it has everywhere else. The threads on this board are proof of that.
06-29-2011, 04:42 PM
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06-29-2011, 04:44 PM
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Slow, why didn't you post the SWA CA rates for comparison? That would draw a sharper picture for us all...ie, if their CA's are operating through ATL with pay rates higher than DAL's 74 CA's doing the exact same thing, albeit in a much larger and international jet, I want to know that! Are you artfully leaving out some of the detes?
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06-29-2011, 04:45 PM
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Just because DAL gave you guys parity on day 1, don't think that is typical. I suspect AirTran guys will phase in over ~3 years to reach SWA pay parity. Mark my word.
You were lucky... they won't be.
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